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Let’s explore a channel specifically about life and death. Not just because so many have lost people recently but we’re coming to a time of collective consciousness where people want to know how to bridge that gap in a practical way—that gap of life and death. Many people don’t think about it much—death—including myself. We live as if we are not going to die. But when we live mindfully of death, to partly prepare for it, then we also intensify the experience of life itself, which becomes more precious when you face that finality.

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Breaking the Culture of Guilt

Last week, I had the luxury of spending seven days doing nothing but sitting in a chair and looking at the Pacific Ocean. My friend and I traveled to Rosarito, Mexico and made the executive decision to do as little as possible on our vacation.

Truth be told, I didn’t exactly do “nothing.” I finished reading one book and started another. We also walked to the local restaurant twice a day to eat. But other than that, the days were spent gazing out of the water sweeping into shore and concentrating on the vast blue of the open sky. It was heavenly. I did not feel at all guilty. In fact, I reveled in the luxury of having so much time to relax and take care of myself.

We started talking about disease (my friend is a doctor) and how much of disease originates in unprocessed and irrational feelings of guilt. I told her about some aches and pains I’d been having. I called them “moveable pain,” sometimes in my shoulder, sometimes in my rib, other times on the left side and then on the right. She suggested I explore what suppressed guilt might be at work in creating this pain.

As I settled into my meditation, I was surprised to find an old familiar memory immediately surfacing, one that involved a trauma I experienced as a pre-schooler with my father. He was screaming at me that, had it not been for me, he could have lived a happy life.

My father’s treatment of me as a child obviously shaped my worldview. The guilt that I was responsible for my father’s unhappiness carried over into all my relationships. It inspired co-dependency, drug addiction, self-sabotage, and unhappiness. My father wanted to make me feel I had done something wrong in order to make himself feel better about his unhappy life.

Through the years, by coming to know myself and using Conflict REVOLUTION to learn self-care, I’ve beaten the addictions, cultivated healthy relationships, and found my happiness. I know today that I was not guilty of anything back then and I’ve learned how to care for that inner child. So I was surprised to see this memory resurface. Was I still affected by this incident? Even in all my healing, was it buried so deep that instead of facing it consciously it had to manifest as my “moveable pain?”

As soon as I asked myself those questions, the scene from childhood jumped to the present and all the chaos of the current political situation here in the US. Lately I made the decision not to get swept away in this chaos, but I often find myself thinking that I have to “do more” otherwise I will be “part of the problem.”

I was surprised to think that those two images might be related—my father’s hurtful behavior and the current politic climate. And yet, what I see emerging in our culture today are people demonstrating the same lack of compassion and kindness that my father displayed. More war, more violence, more school shootings, more bullying. It’s as if society is being controlled by people as sick and lost as my father was when I was a kid.

It suddenly made sense to me that my well-meaning thoughts of wanting to make a positive contribution to change this culture would get tied up in that old guilt. And yet, I’ve come so far! I would not have thought I was still subject to its unseen influence. But, if it had not been buried, it would not have had to manifest as physical pain.

We decided to once again turn to Einstein for some insights about this embedded guilt. He explained how our modern culture is built on guilt, thereby making it nearly impossible to escape. But he also assured us that with mindfulness, compassion, and self-care, we can make new decisions grounded in self-love, for the good of all.

Artwork: Julia Stryker; Photo: Seri Demorest

After a week at the beach, staring at the ocean, feeling and breathing my guilt, and reprogramming my thoughts, my pain is gone. Change may not always happen that quickly, and the pain may not be gone for good, but I am excited about moving forward being mindful of my decisions, feeling and breathing, and continuing to replace the voices of culture with those of love and compassion.


Below are notes from our session:

February 19, 2018
We command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.

It’s always a pleasure and an honor to welcome you to the circle. To begin with, we want to speak about what is going on in the world on February 19, 2018 in an energetic sense.

You as a human in 2018 are experiencing the powerful unification of humanity. Humanity is one body. There is no separation at the Source. That is the truth of your oneness. You are here to create unity within yourself, to the best of your ability, by waking up to the truth of your oneness.

The ultimate unification is when all the billions of people currently on the planet wake up to the truth of their collective oneness.


Right now your physical bodies are being overloaded by too much information. The truth of your oneness is too much information for your human mind to process. But in that challenge comes the growth and expansion you need. Being challenged to take in more and more information deepens your capacity to adapt to the truth of your oneness. Humanity is just now beginning to understand this level of reality, to understand how energy works, how physical matter is manifest through the perception of the human, and the importance of the intention of that human upon the organization of the physical world.

You are the leaders of change, choosing to instigate it first in yourself to then affect culture. This is the ultimate challenge right now. For those of you who have volunteered and were chosen to come here at this time to be the agents of change, you are working to free yourself from the separation that you feel as your mind is concentrating so purposefully in the Lens to create the seamless experience of a separate physical reality.

The evolution of human consciousness right now is in an extremely chaotic place, by design. It’s not a mistake. It’s not that the systems are failing. It’s that in order for you to achieve this oneness, you have to have transparency. And transparency brings with it a great deal of information that has to be processed.

Let’s talk about you as an individual alone: here you sit, you have your physical body, your thoughts, feelings, senses, memories, perceptions. You go to sleep, you wake up, you have days and nights: you are living this life. That is the Lens on the map. Even though your human mind is having this life in the Lens, there is a huge operating system that is invisible to your human mind that is allowing you to have these experiences.

As a human, you are slowly but surely removing the blocks from your human mind so you can take in all the rest of this information—and it’s so much information. So much so that people burn out and die because they don’t have the physical strength to process that much energy. It’s like getting electrocuted, so much energy surging into your body that it blows the circuits. That’s what’s happening right now.

People should be actively, consciously seeking to understand what’s going on in their own energy field and working to take these steps, one step at a time, to ensure that they don’t burn out in this expansion. Self-care is a valuable tool during chaotic times.

Don’t measure your progress by what you see going on in the Lens of your culture right now. If you did that, you would think you were making no progress at all. Don’t dismiss the events of your world, but put them in perspective with a much bigger picture.

Think about the people in your immediate world and about how many you feel you could have this conversation with. That should clearly illustrate what you’re up against in culture right now. You’re like salmon swimming upstream, pushing against the flow of people who are panicking, who don’t understand, who are projecting their judgments and defining their world against this 2018 culture. You’re doing it, too, whether you know it or not. It’s just a natural reaction of your human mind in 2018. But it’s not the whole truth.

This time when the veils are lifting is a very tumultuous and disruptive time. It was never going to be easy. But this is what is needed in order for human consciousness to expand past its limited capacity. By nature, human beings on their own will not push themselves to produce this kind of change. Disruption and conflict are needed to break down those walls and to build up the experiences one step at a time of what this big operating system really is. That’s why your physical body and your mental and emotional health need to go slowly, one step at a time. You don’t want the whole power plant surging into your wall socket.

Riding the Wave

Know that your human intellect is held prisoner in that culture of the Lens. Your job is to find a way out of that prison—not an easy task. It’s not just bliss and joy. Those things are there. But it’s the entire spectrum of human emotions that is being called to be integrated into what we would call power.

So yes, enjoy those times of bliss. Enjoy those times of joy. But know where you are on the journey. Know that the way will rise and fall. Know that you will reach a plateau and then you’ll drop again and then you’ll come up a little higher and then you’ll drop again and you’ll come up a little higher.

That’s why you should not think you are backpedaling when you re-experience some trauma from your past. It’s that your human psyche and your human operating system are so vast and so complex that there’s always going to be more emotions coming up, whether it’s emotions from this life or from the many layers of other lives that are also spinning on your string.

Let’s say you reincarnate into 2150 AD at a time after human consciousness has made the evolutionary step and culture is now based on compassion, unity and sustainability.

Even though that’s not where culture is right now in 2018, concentrate on creating within you the energy of that person in 2150. Simulate as much as you can what that person might be like, how they might think, feel and sense being brought up in the culture that teaches children how to take care of themselves and the world, for the good of all. Imagine the voice of that culture in your intellect supporting and self-loving, free of judgment, attachments and able to live in the truth of the oneness.

By bringing this person into your imagination, you’re using the future to help push the change along. But you’re also creating a conflict with the voices of culture in 2018 that often tell you that you are not worthy of such things. You get hopeless, as war and fighting rage on around you. Now you can feel even more out of time, more misunderstood and more hopeless.


Guilt is a thought process married to an emotional state that then drives the decision-making process. Guilt messages you on a primordial level what is expected of you within your culture and involves making you feel as if you have done something wrong in order to induce you to do something to meet that cultural expectation.

Guilt is a wholly culture-generated perception based on the expectation that you must perform in a way that culture wants. If you had been born 3000 years ago in the southwest of the U.S., which was an indigenous Anasazi migratory route, your voices of culture would have been tuned much more to the earth.

There were always personal voices of culture within family units, but the community culture was magical, sustainable and based on taking care of everyone within the community, including Earth herself. Earth was Mother, the garden that provided everything they needed to survive and thrive with families in a community. The voices of culture drove them to respect and care for the Earth so that the next seven generations would also have an Earth to survive and thrive on.

The culture of 2018 for the most part is far removed from this. Today’s voices of culture have guilt permeating them: in order to have value, you must do something, you must perform, you must achieve, you must accomplish, you must be doing something all the time. It has nothing to do with what the earth wants you to do.

Back in the Anasazi culture, your worth was not based on achievement and performance. Worth was about living in accordance to the laws of nature and taking care of each other. You were born to live in harmony among the plants and animals of the earth. You were born worthy.

2018 is the polar opposite. You are so driven to do these performances that you aren’t even aware of what drives you to do them. Guilt is an inescapable position. Not because you haven’t done enough or learned enough or that you need to do more. It’s that your current culture is driven by it. Your current culture for the most part has lost touch with the earth, lost heart, and consequently is destroying itself. For without the earth, you have no home.

So what is one to do in the face of such potential imprisonment? Is there really no escape from these voices?

Become the Change

Your mission is to not wait for the voices of culture around you to change, but to change yourself from within. This means that very carefully and meticulously, through every single experience you have, you mindfully come to understand what your relationship is to this guilt and how it manifests in your life. This inquiry will then allow evolution to work through you, showing you creative solutions to change those inner voices of culture into ones that love, respect and sustain the infrastructure of your energy.

It’s not like there’s a manual that you can follow that everyone else followed the last time they went through this change, because there was no last time.  And chaos is a natural part of this change.

What do you do? It will help you to understand that there’s not a deficit happening in you because you feel guilt. On becoming aware that you feel guilt, you can decide to make a change in your life, and let that change lead you forward. You become a creature of evolution by holding the truth—that you have guilt—and asking Intuition how to guide you through this process of changing from within.

We can tell you ad infinitum, so much of this is about releasing emotion. In 2018 every human is suddenly aware of the incredible spectrum of emotion that is possible to feel. People are becoming transparent to themselves, and most people don’t know what to do with all that deep feeling. You have a natural tendency to suppress emotions or project them onto others. There must be a change in individuals and how they relate to, define, and process their own emotion. The need to know how to do this and put it into practice will never end. It’s part of the operating system.

If you are making decisions out of guilt and what you think the world wants of you, it means you’re still not being transparent with yourself. Open up and examine your guilt. Observe it as the witness to your life. See what it’s doing and constantly let intuition in to tell you how to change it.

The observation of what that guilt is will help you now to transform it, one step at a time. As you observe yourself, you can exist in a state where you can feel Intuition driving you to do something, and at the same time, you can hear the voices of culture telling you why you shouldn’t and why you can’t. These voices exist side by side. It’s not necessarily that you have to do away with these voices of guilt before you can make a change. It’s that you train yourself to use Intellect to make a decision based on what Intuition is telling you. You make a conscious choice to not act on the voices of guilt, which are of ego, but to act on the voices of Intuition, which are of Compassion.

Everyone experiences this. The voices in your head say you should do that, but your Intuition is saying, “Do this.” When you act on Intuition, you reach a place that is best for the entire system, not just best for what ego wants from moment to moment. We can tell you that almost every time you follow voices of guilt, you won’t get to that place that is best for you. You’ll get somewhere, but it won’t be that place that’s aligned to your Intuition and working for the good of the whole. And you can live there. You are capable of living a life that is dominated by the voices of culture and guilt and driven by them to the end of your life. But you risk living in constant conflict, illness, being unfulfilled and creating more separation from yourself by doing so.

You’ve come here to do something different. Every time you break away from the voices of culture and guilt and let Intuition influence you to make that decision that comes from compassion, you tick down those voices of culture just a bit. Ultimately, we would like to erase the voices of guilt.

In the 2150 operating system, your Intellect is as broad and open as the blue sky and that’s how you face the world every day. In that state, with your mind wide open and blue as that beautiful sky, there’s plenty of room to hear the impelling of Intuition telling you to take the next most advantageous step in whatever the situation is. That’s what you’re working for: a condition in your energy that looks like that: a big, open mind listening for the impelling of Intuition and then making a conscious decision to take that step.

Every single situation you find yourself in gives you a platform to practice this. Every conflict gives you the opportunity to look at what’s going on on a deeper level, find it, change it, and take a step forward to become aware of and living with the oneness of the entire operating system.

Do some meditation exercises where you pull in that person who lives in 2150 who already has a beautiful, open intellect, or go back 3,000 years and pull in that life, where every night you sat out under an incredible huge sky in prayer and you lived within the context of the natural world. Let those two strings of energy that are flowing through you now also come to life within you in 2018.

You can do this by either throwing yourself into culture, or by removing yourself from it. It doesn’t matter. Of course, it’s always a little bit easier when you’re not bombarded with people telling you things all the time to your face. But that can be an empowering platform, too: to observe what’s going on with you, then to let the trigger come up, then release more emotion, and then adjust your actions. It’s like training for a sport, say, soccer; you can practice by yourself, but you learn a lot when you get into the game and play against someone.

We think that 2018 is going to be a surprise year for those of you doing this work. As the world gets more insane, you will want to get more centered. You don’t want to get dragged along on the cultural expectation that all is lost and get lost in all the negative definitions of what’s going on. You don’t want to get swept away with the panic and the judgment and fear that swirling around in culture. You want to use all that chaos to remind yourself even more that now is the time to strengthen your resolve, to expand your own awareness of what’s going on, to pull in this bigger truth during the times when you’re experiencing guilt and when culture is telling you you’re wrong.

We feel it’s important to be connected to what’s going on in the world. But be aware there’s an addiction happening right now: you feel like you have to know what’s going on in the world. And that’s OK—but you don’t. You need to know what’s going on inside you. You need to be in touch with your energy. You need to be cultivating your witness and to make decisions based on what is best for the good of the whole operating system.

We urge you to experiment with all kinds of different ways that you can do that. If you need to cut yourself off from culture for a while, do that. If you need to throw yourself in and become involved in something that really means something to you, do that. Every single person, every single activity, every single path you take is giving you a platform to help the entire human species evolve. That is your job right now. That is your mission right now.

You’ve come here to do this impossible tasks of finding your oneness, of integrating your many lives, of finding your own power, to let emotion flow, to change your thinking process all while facing this increasingly chaotic world.

Don’t let the chaos of the world be an indication of your worth. It is an indication of the change, but not of your worth. Align the thought process of worth and value to the bigger picture. Look at what your current culture is doing to you. This is no easy task. It’s not an easy time to be alive. But it is a worthwhile time to be here, because you can make such a change.

Examine your guilt and the deep emotions around it in a new way, with a new relationship to it. Step by step, with mindfulness of your own energy and oneness, let yourself clear away the voices of culture that say, “You should, you have to.” Let those voices fade away as you open up that big sky that is your mind. Cement that witness to be mindful of who you are and what you’re doing. Breathe. Constantly be breathing emotion. The less you intellectualize your feelings, the more you can move them and release them from their abscess. Then listen closely for Intuition and then act on it. That, in 2018, will reward you with some new direction, and consequently some new manifestations.

Always come back to the fact that it’s a miracle that you are here at all in your physical body, that you have found people of like mind to help support you and feed back to you as you go through these enormous and impossible consciousness-expanding steps in your life. Go one step at a time. Don’t be discouraged. Know that, one step at a time, everything that you’re doing is assisting in the evolution of human consciousness in a big way.

We’re studying what is happening with you, always. In this Party, there are always souls coming and going, adding, observing, supporting. In fact, the Party has gotten quite big, and you are very, very much appreciated and loved by all of us. Thank you for your participation.

We’ll close the channel by reiterating that the world is in a place of great, great transformation. Try not to be fooled into aligning your thinking to what culture says. Open your mind to that large, beautiful sky. Let emotion be the primordial soup of creation, the tapping of your power. Embrace it all. Breathe it all. See it moving on the big string that is you. Listen for that beautiful voice within you. And then, of course, watch and be amazed.


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Barbara: Good morning, good afternoon to everyone! It is Sunday, January 28, 2018. We are here with Einstein and the Party of 12, and it’s 2018! Happy New Year! It’s our first reading of the year. As I was telling Cathy Kline and Robin Cordova, who are here with me, when we were chatting earlier, I traditionally have had no idea what the theme of a series will be. This one—“A Year of Redefinition, Regeneration, and Reinvention”—sounds like a whole bunch of fun to me. As always, it will be sequential, in several parts. However many there are, this is our banner for the year. I’m so excited that you are here, Cathy and Robin, and everyone else around the world who is daring to attempt to experiment with Einstein’s theories. You are greatly welcomed to our group of “regenerators.”

I want to start out by saying that 2018 is the 25th anniversary of Diaries of a Psychic Sorority: Talking With the Angels. The Psychic Sorority of the threesome Teresa McMillan and Kimberly Lilith Phelps and me was a conglomeration of the three of us coming together at particular times in our lives to start a group channeling. It was a monumental time without which we would not be here today.

I’m very excited about 2018 because I fully intend that we are going to re-release Diaries, and it’s my hope that we’ll have at least one new chapter updating. I’m so honored 25 years later to still have these friends and that we tested the Conflict REVOLUTION process. Out of the three of us came Conflict REVOLUTION. Without the three of us, it would not have been able to be tested and put into use in a practical platform.

In honor of the 25th anniversary and to every Conflict REVOLUTIONary out there who has dared to look this deeply into themselves and take this much responsibility for their energy, I want to welcome all of you. Whether you’ve called it Conflict REVOLUTION, whether you just know that you’re aligned to Einstein, for whatever reason you’ve been brought to this place, I want you to know how welcome you are, even if we never hear from you, if we never know who you are. It doesn’t matter. What matters right now is the mass action by people worldwide to ignite the compassion within themselves individually, one person at a time.

I want to start out redefinition, regeneration, and reinvention with the idea of change and how there is a cycle to change. Those of us who are all about change, who aren’t afraid of change, who understand change and try to ride the wave of change, sometimes we think, “Oh, yay! Change!” But most people resist change. The average human psyche has a kind of brake that gets put on when it comes to change. Perhaps it’s the fear of the unknown.

But I learned a couple therapists back about something that was called the Stages of Change. The models for this come from James Prochaska of the University of Rhode Island and Carlo Di Clemente, who developed the transtheoretical model of change in 1977. There are apparently five stages that we go through when we change.

The first is the pre-contemplation. In that stage, we have no intention of changing in the near future. When we get into the pre-contemplation place, we don’t even know we need to change, we’re unaware. For example, I went through some situations with some people of color lately wherein I was able to see what I would call my racist behavior, my intergenerational, preprogrammed racism. I didn’t even know I needed to change. So there’s a pre-contemplation phase we go through.

That moves into the second phase, which is where we start to think about it, to contemplate and to intend that we’re going to change. There’s a weighing of pros and cons of change during this time. What are the good things about having to make that change that’s so hard that people resist?

After that comes the preparedness phase, where you’re getting ready to change. You’re taking little steps that can help the behavior become part of your life.

That leads to the fourth stage, which is the action, where we’ve changed our behavior over the course of a period of time.

Then there’s maintaining that change.

I’m sure my therapist gave me this as a way to understand somebody else I was dealing with, but of course, you know the funny thing about that!

The reason I bring this up here is because if we’re going back to what Einstein has asked me to present this year about redefinition, regeneration, and reinvention, I think there will be phases of each part of these that have this cycle of change, where we’re not even aware we need to change. This also came out of a conversation Robin and I had a few days ago about how when we get into depressive places or feel incapacitated, overwhelmed, so much conflict, being driven, all the stress, that that’s the way our bodies and our bigger selves are showing our human minds that change is needed.

The conflict tries to break the pre-contemplative phase, where you don’t know you have to change. The conflict brings that awareness to the surface. How can we not embrace it and be thankful because it’s making us better, instead of keeping that emotion stuffed inside ourselves thinking that we don’t need to change? The conflict allows us to open that up and feel and breathe it.

In honor of the 25th anniversary of the Psychic Sorority, we blew ourselves up, as we call it! Being the queens of conflict, and then the REVOLUTION of conflict, literally the ones who wrote the book, I am—I wouldn’t say “pleased,” but it’s ironically appropriate, let’s say, that by December 2018, when we re-release this book on the anniversary of our first group, when we got together, I have no doubt in my mind that we will have used  our tools appropriately and create something greater than we could have done [without the conflict]. Because apparently we needed to change, too, and we weren’t aware. So I’m embracing it all.

I’ll post a link to that model so you can see it in more detail. The important part is to understand where you are in that cycle of change. When we can understand that, ok, we’re on our way somewhere and we don’t quite know how we’ll make all those bridges or where the roads are going, but we just believe we’re going there—when we’re in that phase—it’s illuminating to take a look and ask ourselves, what part of the cycle of change are we’re in in this moment?

There are times we don’t want to change. We just dig our feet in and pretend nothing’s wrong. My description for myself used to be that I’d stand in the middle of the room stomping, my fists clenched, sweat dripping off my brow because I was so mad, pounding and screaming, “I’M NOT MAD!!!” Apparently that was pre-contemplative.

Without much further ado and with great thanks to everyone who participates and listens, thank you so much, I’ll ask us all to take a breath. I want everyone to get as comfortable as they can. I am tucked in my big king bed with my maroon down comforter, and outside there’s a beautiful, clean, white, fluffy snow falling in the forest. It’s so quiet, no cars, no airplanes, no ferries, no sound but what’s real. There is one of the last great bodies of water surrounding me, so I sit in the middle of a crystal.

Today I want us to breathe into the air that I’m surrounded by, this crystalline power of Mother Earth, of compassion, of creation in its purest form, the Earth that you are connected to. That’s the purest form.

We will command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.

The Party: Welcome to 2018! We want to thank Barbara for introducing us in such a way that really does set the stage for what we want to focus on this year. We are forever grateful for having an audience willing to take our processes and put them into your bodies. In this action of change—and that is the very stage that we’re speaking of, the action stage, when you take action to change yourself—you are indeed not only being a part of the evolution of human consciousness, to where Compassion is the governing force from within, but you are also changing the way that matter manifests around you.

This year we want to focus on the second of those. The first will be a byproduct of you focusing on the second: focusing on your energy, your life, your decisions, your actions, the action stage of change. Because 2018 will require that you are able to make decisions for the good of the whole at a very fast pace.

That doesn’t mean you can’t ever slow down and relax and not worry about anything. Quite the contrary. We don’t mean that there will be only stressful decisions coming your way. That can be any day of the week.

What we mean is, for yourself, for the internal decision-making aspect of your operating system—which consists of your Intuition impelling an action spurred on by an Emotional dictate connected to Compassion, and then the Intellectual definition and therefore action that gets taken—if you see that energy, those three human dimensions, and how they operate, you can see that Emotion turning into the voice of Compassion as Intuition to impel the entire system to take a step for the good of the whole system is the turning point of change, between that and then what the Intellect does in response to that impelling.

When we say you’ll be challenged to make decisions for the good of the whole rapidly, it isn’t a stress thing as much as it is, imagine getting your “blah-blah-blah” Intellect out of the way. Imagine the feeling of openness, of fresh air in your head. Imagine this picture that Barbara has painted of being surround by crystal water, the power of that water. It’s like she’s in the middle of a crystal, without noise, with fresh air, clean, untainted. That’s what we want your mind to look like. That’s the redefinition that we want to start out with: how to redefine your mind.

Your mind is the mechanism that operates the Intellect. That’s how we distinguish between those two terms. Intellect is a bigger contraption and the mind is a part of its functioning, in the intersection between spirit and physical. Your mind defines your mind, it defines itself.

As many of you experience and have been talking about, those definitions in your mind that are lodged in there from repeated patterns—now you’re realizing it isn’t even just your childhood, but centuries of lives you’ve experienced in other DNA space-time bodies, in other Lenses, other universes, going on right there on the surface of the planet. But this life, in 2018, is the life where you choose to take action and make that change.

So there’s a good redefinition for you if you need something to hold onto or to tack on the wall. There’s a good reminder that you need to look at a bigger continuum of what’s going on, that you are able to see a greater picture. You can’t lose sight of the personal, of course. That’s your platform. That’s the byproduct of all of this work.

When you regenerate, a very simple explanation is “to sustain, a sustainability.” Rather than being so depleted of resources and energy that you’re starved, there’s a continual flow of resource and a positive, direct use of that resource that increases the resource and does not deplete energy. It’s not like there aren’t still seasons or life and death, but there’s a regenerative operating system that is recognized, and those within it, you with the physical bodies, are working to be that change within it.

There are so many around the world right now on the planet in 2018, more and more and more are being driven to take action. When you look at the global situation right now, also try to remember this cycle of change. Many people in the world had no idea that change was needed. The uncovering of the truth is now bringing them to understand that, “We’d better have some change soon.” As you become more aware, you realize it’s not “soon,” it’s “now” when I need to make change. It’s now when I have to find a way.

In people’s behavior you’re seeing that some humans are pushed to a degree of insanity because of their unpreparedness, their clinging to that pre-contemplative stage. The kicking and screaming are intense. They blame other people. They want to bomb other people. You’ll see each individual on the planet being given the same power to change. Some will take it and some won’t. That is that moment we were speaking of earlier between when Emotion drives an Intuitive impelling—that’s one part of it—and then Intellect takes that and interprets it and takes action—that’s where that second part turns into something else.

If you were to also look (for those of you who are metaphysicians and like to see pictures of energy and how that  looks) if you have an abscess and it’s throbbing, it’s Emotion at that deep level sending the message up, and Intuition is impelling, “Change.” It gets over to the other side and the message is blotted out and the Intellect puts its own message in there for the good of the few.

You can see this entire model in each individual who has been given the power to make this change. And some won’t. They’ll come around again. It’s OK. But we’re concerned with those who are at the stage where they want to make that change.

So this year, understand that that change means that you have to reinvent something. You have to reinvent what has not been operating correctly. Think about being an inventor. Do you define yourself as an inventor? Or do you say that you’re not very creative or can’t do things well? Thinking now that you’ll be required to reinvent your life, your actions, your whole operating system, you’re in the process—now you have to go back to the first and redefine yourself.

This is a cycle of change as well: redefinition, regeneration, reinvention. Again you come back around where there will be another wave and you’ll be redefining. Redefining is a regular part of your new operating system. Not only redefining those old definitions—that you’re not good enough, smart enough, powerful enough, can’t do it—but redefining who you are. As Barbara said, this will be a familiar mantra in 2018: “You have no idea how powerful you are.” And we mean that on every level. On the level where you can wake up in the morning and say, “I am going to accept that I’m more powerful than I even know,” and also in the humility of looking at the power of Compassion that you can never know, because it’s like knowing God. You can know God, but you can’t really describe God. You can’t have words for the whole of God. You are God in that sense.

You do not understand [how powerful you are] and are in this place of change where you’re out of the pre-contemplative stage and you want to make that change. You’re taking steps to make that change. You’re changing the system, the whole entire system. And you’re experiencing times where you’re just maintaining it. It’s working really well. You’ve done it!

But don’t allow a relapse back into being in a pre-contemplative state [to throw you], because that’s the cycle. It’s the cycle of waking up a little at a time. You can’t just let that whole power plant surge through your outlets. You wake up a little at a time.

We want to say a few words to all of you who work so hard. When you lose your bodies, you will have such a laugh! Not even in an ironic way. Just in the way where there’s a great relief that comes in knowing that you didn’t have to know it all. That you weren’t supposed to be in as much control as you drove yourself to be in.

Every nanosecond when energy was bubbling up through the earth, breaking through to the surface to create your physical body, heartbeat by heartbeat, breath by breath, present moment—talk about present moment, it’s happening now, the miracle! Even as you sit there and do nothing, you feel the miracle of energy surging up through your body to create your body. Then you’re projecting the entire universe and then perceiving it and interpreting it. This is a big job. This is a lot of information. You cannot just wake up to it. You do not just get there. You’re taking your life and committing it to self-awareness, to change for the greater good and for the tiniest good. The greatest good of you, the greatest good of the world around you.

When you lose your bodies and get back to this place, there’s a great joy and a reunion that goes on. We want to talk just a minute about death and say that our job here—those who have come together to make this commitment to help the humans who have bodies in 2018—is that this project and intention of ours to influence you is only about you taking care of you. Everything else becomes a byproduct of that. You do interact with the world. It’s so important that you make compassionate choices when you’re out in the world dealing with people. It strengths the network of the divine.

But really, in the end, when you love yourself in all these ways that we’ve been speaking of for 25 years or more, today, it’s about you and your relationship to yourself. In this year of redefinition, we’ll redefine you as perfect. A perfect operating system. You have the perfect operating system that you are going to change and evolve. And not because it’s not perfect, but because change and evolution are a part of its mathematical basis of regeneration and reinvention.

Einstein: I want you to think of yourself as inventors. In many ways, I invented theories, but not like those who went into the laboratory and put together some kind of physical model of the experiment they wanted, whether it was Faraday or the Curies. My forum was pen and paper. You become the laboratory for me and those of us who are here to inspire this change.

We cannot express enough the gratitude that we have that for 25 years we have been able to come together through Barbara’s voice with groups of people to share our viewpoint, to have them participate with us. It’s a success already. We have succeeded in fulfilling what we have set out to do: to plant the seeds of this kind of change.

The Party: And those of you who have been involved, for however long, you have seen the culture change around you, have you not? To be more open, more accepting, more interested, more integrated with these ideas of the inventors, yourselves, inventing these. You see the world change because of those inventions. That is a very honorable place for everyone to be. And any time we can help you redefine yourself, to understand that, just call upon us. We will tell you. You’ll have to think you’re a little crazy in your head to invite in Einstein and the Party, which is a huge party going on here. But then you know that. And you’re a part of it.

What we’re trying to do is to get you accustomed, all of you humans who still have bodies, to the part of your energy that’s already dead, here with us. You have to be careful, because your culture will tell you you’re crazy. But it makes no difference to us, because we know that when you lose your body, you’re going to have a good laugh.

Let’s start off 2018 redefining ourselves as inventors, and let’s use all the tools that we’ve given you and that you’ve learned to change that one person: you. Change yourself. Strive every day to find the places in your operating system that diminish you and change them. That process, if we had to break it down, would be two-part: breathing the Emotion (because when you break out of the pre-contemplative phase and realize that you have a problem, there’s Emotion that follows) and then changing that thought process and those decisions of what you’re going to do.

You’ll find that by the time we get to our last dissertation in Paris at the end of the year you will have found that those voices that diminish you will have diminished themselves. All of you will find the manifestation of this inner work in ways very specific to you, but they are expanding and bringing abundance, relationships, and a deeper trust in yourself, something that you can never lose. Once you learn to care so deeply for yourself, that becomes your operating system. You’ll never lose that again. Everything else springs from that.

With all of this said, we would like to now open for questions and conversation.

Robin Cordova

Robin: Hello. Thank you, Einstein and Party, for this wonderful dissertation. I have a question myself and also several from Cassandra. I’d like to start with Cassandra’s list. Her first question is, Are spirits on the other side able to taste food?

Party: To a certain degree, but not like you who have the physical chemical action that’s going on. It’s more like the memory of food.

Robin: OK, thank you! You touched on this a bit in your dissertation, about calling upon you and the Party. Her next question is, How much are spirit guides able to intervene and help us when we’re on earth? What is their role in general?

Party: Think of the guidance in two ways. One is, we’re out here cheering for you, rooting for you, being your friend, giving you sage advice, being just another entity in your community of life, your family, etc. To some extent, we can’t do anything any more than anybody else can.

On the other side of it, we’re not going to rig the game so that you “win.” But we work with you (the part of you we were talking about, the part of you that’s dead already) to ultimately manifest what you manifest. In other words, we’ll take the example of you, Robin, you’ve been feeling a little down, going through some times that require more nurturing on your part, a very common condition for the human psyche. All of those events that led to that condition were ultimately done by you with the assistance of the guides, but it’s your greater power that is manifesting those things around you.

Spirit guides are best utilized as friends and not as supernatural beings that will intervene any more than a friend might. If you were stepping off the curb and a bus was coming, a spirit guide might grab you and pull you back. But you wouldn’t want to rely on that. You’d want to be able to be aware of a bus. If you weren’t, then when you got here to the other side you’d have a good laugh. We hope that answers the question.

Robin: Yes, I think so! Thank you. She has another one here. Is there an earth spirit that represents the planet earth, and if so, what would it say to us, especially about the way humans have been treating the earth?


Party: There is an earth spirit. It works through gazillions of pieces, it speaks through the earth itself, the trees, the air, the animals, you. It’s saying that if you don’t take care of me, you will lose your own life. The earth will go on. It’s a similar message of what we’ve been saying to you as humans. If you don’t take care of yourself and your inner life, care for yourself with love and compassion, treat yourself with the greatest good of all, then you’ll lose your life. You’ll eventually end up living in some sort of purgatory where you’re not really living, you’re not happy, you’re lost in process. That’s the message right now.

Robin: Thank you. The questions that I had you touched on, with difficulty. Barbara and I were having a conversation about this the other day, too, in that sometimes the conflict—we are grateful for the lessons that come out of it and we know enough to not blame anyone and feel the blessings and stop and say, “Oh, my gosh, I need change!” But we also were wondering, is there an easier way to maybe find these abscesses, connect with them, heal them, without them having to play out in painful ways in real life, in that pre-contemplation stage?

Party: Two answers: one is yes and the other is no.

The yes answer is that if you think about how you dealt with emotion in your life 25 years ago, you have made it a great deal easier. You would have been creating a great deal more drama in your life, a great deal more inner turmoil, had you not been a student of this and yourself, not just us, but a student of yourself, who you came here to be. So you’ve made it easier.

But is it possible to extract the abscess without feeling the pain? That’s the no. If you think about Jesus, in his life, he went into that 33rd or 27th life—the final life as Jesus Christ—as perfect a human as could be. He processed Emotion in a way that no one else could understand. All of his emotions became his power. He did that through living all those other lives as Jesus. You have to do it that way, too, but in a smaller sense. You’re changing yourself through your self-awareness, and thereby what could have been suffering and pain 20 years ago now becomes your power. (Although yes, you’re going through a difficult spell now.)

The way that Jesus had to finally integrate everything was to feel physical pain that would give him an empathy for suffering that he didn’t have prior to being nailed to the cross. It’s not that he didn’t have empathy, it’s not that he hadn’t come as one very perfect evolved psyche of a human. But he needed to feel that pain, to connect on a molecular level. What becomes suffering is when you beat yourself up while you’re feeling the pain, you judge yourself, you diminish yourself, you say you shouldn’t be feeling the pain. All of that is what the suffering is. The rest of it is the first step to accepting that you’re going to feel the pain, and that then becomes the next step to transforming and regenerating the pain.

In other words, you have to quit denying the pain and feel what you … the reason it’s an abscess in the first place is because you don’t want to feel it! Because once you get there, then you can begin to transform it into something else. You can take that pain and turn it into pleasure, turn it into pure healing energy once you’re able to breathe it through your body and then marry it to an intellectual definition. You redefine it. You’re feeling a deep pain, but instead of saying, “What’s wrong with me?” or “That person did this!” you’re saying, “I am connected to the most powerful force in the universe, Compassion. It is by nature a regenerative force that is surging through my body now, regenerating all of my molecules with compassion and love.” You can see how much different it is. It’s still moving through your body, but now you are transforming it into something.

This is an experiment. We’ve done this for 25 years. This isn’t like we’re telling you something that’s been done over and over again. Our theory is—based on what we’ve seen, it looks good: by allowing yourself to feel the pain, it becomes your power. Then you learn what that means, to control your power, how to transform your power, what to do with your power. As we said, you are more powerful than you will ever know.

Robin: Thank you for that clarity and the model, hearing it again, it always seems like I take away another nugget. Just like any perfecting or mastery of anything. You go back in, you hear it again, you see it in a new way, you take another nugget, and then you apply it. I’m eternally grateful.

Party: Yes. Think of yourself as a sculptor. You’ve been given a huge mound of clay. It will take a lifetime to sculpt. You step up, you step close, you step back, you take breaks. It’s a never-ending story.

Robin: Which comes back to the cycle that Barbara opened with. It’s like a spiral.

Party: Yes, absolutely. A spiral, and about the place where you are on the spiral, because it keeps spiraling. If you think about it as a moving—it’s finite, but it’s continually spinning, and you’re going up. It’s sort of like those rabbit ears with the electricity that keeps going up and up. It’s nonstop.

Robin: Thank you. I’m excited about this series and inventing in 2018.

Party: Yes. In the sessions to come, we will have some sessions together of invention. What does it mean to invent? How to invent? Where does that divine vision come from of how to take the thought and turn it into the actual physical thing? That’s an exciting part for us, too. We, too, are eternally grateful that you are here with us in great collaboration. Thank you.

Robin: Thank you.

Cathy Kline

Cathy: I wanted to share a couple comments. I totally understand how when we’re in the midst of something difficult, we want to figure out how we can get through it without the physical pain. But when we can step back and look at it about being more aware, the whole purpose of life in the human body seems to be to experience the experiment of life.

What I came up with from the dissertation today is a sound bite for asking for help. Where I can come up with sound bites for the problem, the issue that I have, that’s easy to come up with. But encompassing a real powerful thing for me now is to, when I know I’m not in awareness or I’m in doubt about something and I want to have that Intuition, now I can ask for “crystal-clear intuition.” When it hit me, I knew that that’s my new mantra for when I’m in the middle of a crisis. I can just say “crystal-clear intuition” and then allow all that encompasses that to be a part of me. I wanted to share that. Thank you.

Party: Yes. The mantra is like an invocation of bringing forth that crystal-clear intuition. Remember that the cacophony of the Intellect, which oftentimes mars that crystal clarity, can still go on if you get into the space between the Intuition and the Intellect. When you’re in that place and you realize you have to ask for help and you’re evoking this for yourself, take a minute while you’re breathing and do a visualization.

Think about the Intuition and the Intellect as a joint that comes together, two bones that come together. They’re held together by cartilage and muscle and they bend and they’re connected to one another, but there’s a space between the two. That way you don’t have to waste time struggling to quiet your Intellect in the thinking process. It can go on over there. You’re just going to move to a quiet space for a minute. That will help the clarity address itself and get to you in that moment.

Cathy: Yes, thank you for the crystal-clear clarity!

Party: Now we will close the channel by saying that from where we’re sitting right now, we feel as if we’re in a circle. There’s a circle behind that and one behind that and one behind that. Some of the spirits on those circles that go up are people who will be listening to this in the future. Some are members of the Party who are here in afterlife with us. Some of it is angelic presence. It truly is a very large Party.

What we want to bring home to you in 2018 is that we’re always here. Whether you think of us in a football stadium or an operating room theater, however you see that gathering of intelligence and compassion in the form of this Party, we’re here. Come visit us any time. We will have as much joy talking with you as we have talking through Barbara today. We see great things happening ahead, for each of you individually, but also for the world.

When you despair and look at the world and it seems so crazy and you’re so stressed out, aside from feeling and breathing, remember that this is a cycle of change. You’re witnessing the movement from pre-contemplative space to understanding that change is needed. And you see it. There is no denying this when you look at your world today. It doesn’t mean that everything’s changed, but more and more and more people are standing up to say, “Now I will be the change. I am out of my pre-contemplative stage and I will be the change.”

Know that just as with you, when you personally go through some kind of change, the world is opening up to the bigger joy to where it doesn’t have to be suffering. There’s a ways to go, but 2018 we feel will be a year of great master change, and we are honored and pleased to tell you, for the 25th year, to watch and be amazed.



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State of the World Report

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Welcome back to our 2017 RE-Boot Series! After an event-filled summer break of music, mayhem and a fall down the stairs, we’re back, reporting from Paris for #6. Looking forward to catching up and reconnecting with you and the Party. Hope you can join us. If not, watch for the download posting.


Paris 2017

Another Near Death Experience

August 27, 2017, 1 AM ER

On the night of August 26, I fell down 20 wooden stairs, hit a concrete sidewalk, continued down three more granite stairs and landed in the yard below.

As I was tumbling, I remember thinking, “This might not be good.”

When I finally stopped, I stood up, checked my neck, back and general condition, and realized I had broken my wrist. After a trip to the emergency room, surgery was scheduled for several days later to put in a metal plate.

Luckily, the fall happened on the last night of my three-week musical tour. Not only had the tour ended literally two hours earlier, but the fact that I had only broken my wrist was nothing short of miraculous.

Missing Man Tour, August 2017. L-R: Reid Papke, Fredy Argir, Bill Smith, Richard Grossman, Barbara With Photo: Clora Caddell.

After coming through surgery, I began the healing process, devoting my energy to the intention that I would make a rapid and full recovery. At first, I kept reliving the fall, over and over. It was traumatic. I wondered what allowed me to fall in such a way as to not damage anything but my wrist. Was it just luck that I did not break my neck, hip(s), leg(s) or other bones, or end up paralyzed, brain damaged or flat our dead?

In a reading I did for my sister last week, Einstein said this about my fall:

The greatest healing power that you have is your own self-love. There’s a new kind of layer of supernatural awareness that surrounds your bodies now. It’s about not hiding your body from your soul. Whatever it was in Barbara’s fall that allowed her body to not break, her neck to not snap—whatever those magical intentions were at this point, we are not quite articulate in how to describe the neurological connections between that Greater Barbara who was (think of it as dancing, or maybe performing surgery) instructing [her body], “Don’t hit there. Don’t hit there.” How did the energy cross-reference from her bigger self to her physical body? What was the intersection of intelligence and bodily response that allowed that to happen?

Our Einstein tells us that we nurture synchronicity when we allow Intuition to be in charge of making decisions. Bypassing the logic of the Intellect, Intuition will guide us to the next most advantageous step for the good of the whole. Is Einstein saying above that the system is so ingrained in how I operate that it works even in the case of falling down the stairs?

November 2015, Paris, memorial at the Bataclan, where 130 people were killed in a terrorist attack.

Would that explain the other events in the past several years that could have ended poorly? The hit-and-run crash that totaled my car in 2011 that I walked away from, the Wimberley Flood in 2015 that I was only blocks uphill of, the terrorist attack in Paris later that year that was right around the corner from my hotel—could my “good luck” be a greater form of self-love?

The truth it, it’s a grand experiment and we are the researchers as well as the lab rats. Einstein has given us the road map and step-by-step instructions for changing our own lives first and foremost. From that inner change comes the outer manifestation of the inner peace and self-love we create by aligning to Compassion.

I don’t know the answer. I do know I dedicate myself to living aligned to Compassion and that has changed my life. In fact, at my last doctor’s visit on October 31, he declared my healing was six weeks ahead of schedule and gave me a clean bill of health. Just in time to head to Paris, where I will be for the next month or so, living the life, working on music, singing some jazz, and immersing myself in yet another effort to live fully, richly, deeply while still in physical form.

So far, so good.

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The Politics of Joy

Special Guest Leslie Stewart

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Join us as we welcome author and psychic Leslie Stewart, who channels the collective known as Orion. We will be talking about her book, Trust and Allow the Process of Life, In-Joy  and exploring the nature of joy, free will, and how to get out of the way and trust the flow.

Orion is a non-physical collective consciousness that speaks through Leslie. Instead of focusing on predictions, Orion instructs us on how we can create the life of our choice. Although Orion can provide us with future probabilities, they also give us insight on how our current beliefs and feelings have attracted past events.

And more importantly, Orion provides us with tools and inspiration that enable clients to transform their consciousness. By assisting us in understanding the law of attraction, they help us to raise our vibration—thus allowing us to attract more favorable events and experiences into our lives. Their tutelage can help to enhance our awareness and growth, and assist us in understanding the multidimensional beings that we are and reclaiming our authentic power.


Interview With Kimberly Lilith Phelps

Kimberly Lilith Phelps
Kimberly Lilith Phelps

Author of Diaries of a Psychic Sorority:
Talking with the Angels   
Second Coming: Awakening the Christ Within

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Barbara: Good morning. It is February 26, 2017. My name is Barbara With, and I am here with the Party of 12 ( This is the second in our 2017 series, a 12-part series that I’ve called the Reboot. The idea of this series is that we are in the process of rebooting our operating systems and creating an entirely new way in which we relate to the physical world and ourselves. Here we use our Einsteinian road maps and we become the scientists in our own lives seeking to infuse them with Compassion, which is the fifth fundamental force of the universe and is the source of all creation, including the source of us.

Each month I’m trying to bring a new guest to interview, someone who grasps and understands the Einsteinian maps and ideas but also has a completely different platform from which we can find out where our paths cross. Last week we had Robin Cordova, who was very instrumental in showing us about hope and positive psychology. I learned so much from that. The Einsteinian information, Conflict REVOLUTION, everything we’ve been working with, is meant to augment the rest of our physical lives. It’s meant to augment medical science, psychology, religion, Christianity, even arts.

Barbara With, Teresa McMillian, Lily Phelps, The Psychic Sorority, 1996
Barbara With, Teresa McMillian, Lily Phelps, The Psychic Sorority, 1996

This morning I’m very super-duper excited about my special guest for many reasons, not only that she’s one of my closest, dearest friends, but also, she and I and Teresa McMillian co-authored our first book, Diaries of a Psychic Sorority: Talking with the Angels. This book was the documentation of our first association, when we began working together, organizing groups of listeners. I would channel, we would record and then transcribe and see what these messages were. This book is the inception of where we are today. All of the amazing scientific theories and worldviews and “neo-science” that has come out of the Einstein work began with Diaries. And even though our work carried on for years, Diaries is the first four months. It has the six master sessions, where the “angels,” as they wanted us to call them, were giving us what they said were “step-by-step instructions for world peace, one person at a time,” starting with us. And then we as individuals were to turn and show the world and influence the world by the work that we had done with ourselves.

9780988359758cvr.inddIf all that isn’t enough, she also has her own book coming out, Second Coming: Awakening the Christ Within, due out this spring. We’ll be talking about that. I’m very excited about seeing where paths cross with Christianity and the Bible and Einstein. As many of you know, Party of 12: The Afterlife Interviews was my next book after Diaries, and Einstein emerged in those conversations, as did Jesus of Nazareth. If you listening and you need to, I have provided a free download at of the Jesus interview. We’ll be talking about that crossover as well.

But what is one of my most cherished parts of our relationship is that it was Lily and I in the very beginning who provided the platform, the Petri dish, as it were, of conflict with which to apply the new Einsteinian worldview—excuse me, they were angels then, and they stressed to us that they didn’t want us to get hung up on who they were but instead to look at the information they were giving us.

We would hold a master session, sometimes there were 10, sometimes 25 people, record, transcribe and provide those transcripts to the people who had come and listened. That was impetus that eventually became the book.

How we became the guinea pigs for this was, the three of us had started working together. We’d been together for about six months. It was a very exciting, high, magical, synchronistic time. We were all reeling and reveling in everything that we were learning. And then, conflict started to come between us three girls. We put it off for as long as I think we could until the day came when it was so obvious that we were in conflict that we had to deal with it. We met at my house, and I will say very quickly the conversation escalated into a highly emotional situation. I would say there was never anything below the belt, but Lily was looking at me and I was looking at her. “Yes, but you were doing this.” “Yes, but you were doing this.”

It reached a fever pitch where all of us wanted to leave and probably not see each other again when I remembered that the second master session we had just done was called “Conflict Resolution.” I said, “Hey, let’s get the transcript and see what it says.” So I got the transcript, and what we read was,

“If you have a part in a conflict, if you’re engaged in a conflict, the part you want to be concerned about is within you.”

It translated into, “Step back, take a breath, look at your part, and when you come back to table, talk about your part. Not her part.” We cycled around it a little bit after that, but at one particular moment, all three of us had an aha! moment where, swoosh!—we called it—“satori” came in. We all started crying, and immediately we started talking about our part of the conflict. “Yes,” I said, “I need to be more aware of my impact.” Isn’t that a famous rev for me through the years, my impact? Lily said, “I want them to be there for me, but I need to be self-sufficient.” And even Teresa, who was the peace in the middle, said, “We all need to listen more to each other.”

That was the very practical way that we started to take the information and use it to make different decisions in our lives that greatly affected the outcome of the situation and of the conflict. We have worked this process in our own way through the years to where I won’t say I’ll never be triggered again by Lily. She and I in the beginning were the two who fought. We had an email exchange, we’ll talk about it in a minute, where we just kept slamming emails back and forth, until we picked up the phone and started laughing. “Oh, my gosh, what are we doing? Let’s learn from this.”

That piece, that interaction with us in the beginning was a monumental piece to where we have come today. And in Lily’s direction with her new book Second Coming, she has taken the “angels’” information, Einstein, whatever you want to call it, and used it to reassess the Bible, which is a love of hers. But I will let her talk about that, so I’d like to welcome Kimberly Lilith Phelps. Good morning!

Lily: Good morning, Barbara, thanks for having me on your show.

Barbara: I am so excited. We’re here in your beautiful home in Minneapolis. I wanted to start out by asking you to tell us about Second Coming and what inspired you to create this book.

Lily: It’s a very long story, so I’ll be short. I’ve always loved the Bible. For a long time I didn’t fit with religion. When we started doing our work, I kept up reading the Bible, and I started to realize that I was hearing it with new ears. I was hearing the Bible based on the beautiful words that we were being taught by the angels and I was learning about this constant human conflict that we all deal with and realizing that there are places where that shows up in the Bible. They were humans, the people who wrote the Bible. I started to use the work together, and it all superimposes for me now.

In my book I talk about how it’s time for us to participate in the salvation of the world. It’s time for us to stop waiting for one particular person to save us, fix it for us. It’s my belief that when Jesus came the first time, they thought he would save them from their terrible lives. But no, he saved them in their lives. He showed them how to live in their lives with love, with compassion. That saved them within their lives. And that’s where we are right now. We’re at a point where we can awaken to that Christ inside each one of us, and the conflict resolution work helps us do that every day and get ourselves aligned with how we would like to live rather than being constantly embroiled in conflict.

Barbara: The book became an extension of Diaries?

Lily: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I had gotten to the point where any book I read, I would make notes in the margin about what our work had been all those years. I would make notes in the margin about how I was correlating whatever book I was reading had to do with the work the way we learned to change our perception of life and of the world and of conflict and begin to use conflict as a tool instead of something to hide from. I started doing it with everything I read and everything I heard, and then I realized I was doing it with the Bible. It was a natural progression for me ultimately to write this book where I have over a hundred footnotes from the Bible that talk about spirituality and the Bible together, which doesn’t always sound exactly like modern Christianity would say it, but it does seem like Jesus would say it.

Barbara: Having worked on the book, not so much in the editing of it, but in the design of it, and I did read it all for the show but also for one of the last passes of editing, I am not a Bible fan. I left Christianity at 12 years old, when the gardener told my mother he was going out to bury “niggers,” and that was the end of it for me. So to read this book and to see where you have taken these Bible verses, and they are exactly the information that we’ve been talking about. I was fascinated. We’ll talk later about some of the specific verses.

I originally named this interview, “Would Jesus Forgive Hitler?” I wanted to originally talk about Jesus in the Bible versus Jesus in Party of 12 and that interview. And we’ll get into some of that. But what has ensued is a conversation about evil and divinity. In Party of 12, Einstein describes to John Kennedy, Jr., in the introduction how the Party started. He had gone into Afterlife deeply troubled with the fact that during World War II, Adolf Hitler was pushing him off his pacific stance, and out of fear, he decided that instead of all the things he was working on that weren’t working—he was working on world government, on economics—and nothing was able to change the people who were involved in economics and world government. So he thought for a moment maybe the idea was to get such big weapons that you could threaten the other people to back down. That’s when he wrote to Roosevelt, urging him to develop nuclear weapons.

We know the rest of the story. Japan was the victim, and he left the planet in 1955 feeling as if he had been part of evil in the world, even though his intention was so good. He came into Afterlife worried that he had just given the world its excuse to destroy itself. He came upon a jury room, and when he walked in, there was a dark figure obviously tortured. There was a man taking notes. And there was a man standing over the tortured figure, putting his hands on him, talking with compassion and love. This turned out to be Jesus administering to Hitler while Sigmund Freud was talking notes. That was the beginning of the Party.

[So] I called the question, “Would Jesus Forgive Hitler?” because you, Lily, and I have had conversations about how Christianity wouldn’t, that many people who call themselves Christians wouldn’t sanction the forgiving of Hitler. This is a very difficult question, and we’ll bring it into present time as well. But you believe Jesus would forgive Hitler, of course?

Lily: I do. And it has to be “of course,” because over and over in the Bible we’re told that no matter what, God’s grace is there and God will forgive us. Barbara and I have been talking this morning about the spectrum of good and evil, divine and evil, and that in order for Jesus to be who he is, to be that icon of good, it is his nature, then, to forgive. It is what God does, because of who God is, not because of who each person is. It only makes sense, and I don’t know how God forgives people. I have a human ego, I have trouble forgiving sometimes. But I have faith in God and in the idea that even Hitler—God will figure that out. God will find a way to forgive each of us if we go to God and want to be forgiven.

Barbara: In keeping with what you were saying about forgiveness and that Jesus didn’t come here to save us by dying on the cross, he came here to inspire us by being the example so that we could then awaken within—his forgiveness of such extreme evil was not even about saving Hitler. Because Hitler—and if you go on to read Party of 12, he says he’s working with the spirits of all the people who were his victims on forgiveness, which ultimately would be his own self-forgiveness. Jesus was not forgiving him so he could be off scott-free, he was doing it because that’s what he does to maintain his divinity, in that sense.

reboot2webWe were talking also about how Hitler and Jesus, according to the information in Party of 12, represent the opposite ends of the spectrum of what is potential in humans. We all have the potential, every human mechanism, to make freewill choices that will either get us to be Hitler or get us to be Jesus. The truth is, we’re all somewhere in the middle. We’re all somewhere, for the most part, people we know. The idea, I think, as we talk here, is that we move towards the Jesus spectrum to the best of our ability because that will affect the manifestation of what will happen around us. The truth is, there is a spectrum that we have the potential to become as evil as Hitler.

Lily: And that’s where choice comes in. That’s what makes choice so important in this life that we live. And in order to have a choice, there has to be good and evil. If there’s only good, there is no choice. The way this is all set up, it’s for us to come here, divine spirit in a human body, a physical vehicle, and experience that conflict. The root conflict is that you take divine spirit and infinity and you put it in this physical, heavy, tired, worrisome bodies and it kind of makes a mess all over the place.

But that’s why we’re here. That’s not what’s wrong. And that’s not because we’re bad. That’s why we’re here. We’re here to have this experience in physical bodies because we don’t have it when we’re not wearing physical bodies.

What we’re learning as we work our way through conflict and as every single day we make choices—“Will I be on the peaceful side, the loving side, the divinity and compassion side? Or will I choose evil?” As Einstein says, “Will I choose what’s best for the one or the few or what’s best for the many?” We all do this all day long. It’s the work of our lives. When Christianity makes us sinners because of this, I think that defeats the purpose for why we’re here, because we are here to do this. We are here to reconcile.

Barbara: So you think we’re here to actually face conflict?

Lily: I do. And there are other things of course. There are wonderful other things we do. But yes, I do believe that. I didn’t in the beginning. I didn’t even understand it, and I was the conflict avoidance queen. Fighting with Barbara in the beginning was torturous for me. I wasn’t a fighter. But I learned how valuable it is have us to own our own inner conflict, and then we can heal it. Until we own it, we can’t fix it. If it’s not yours, you can’t fix it.

Through my exchange with Barbara, I learned how important conflict is and how to stop avoiding it and hiding it and stuffing it down and denying it, which is what we all do as human beings, until we learn not to. And I learned to start to heal and appreciate those opportunities for healing. Every time we make that divine choice, we keep ourselves on that end of the spectrum.

Barbara: There was a Bible verse in your book that I did not even understand until you and I talked about it. The Bible is very tough for me. I get a headache trying to figure it out. So it was really helpful to talk about this verse, because I didn’t understand the implications of it.

Another thing I wanted to say about that is that Einstein is the perfect example of why this is so amorphous and not clear-cut. A person is not either evil or good. Here he was, I think he thought he was making decisions for the good of the whole when he urged Roosevelt to develop the nuclear weapon. But when they used it on Japan and hundreds of thousands of people were killed, he was not only heartbroken, but he went into Afterlife with the question, “Am I evil? I have worked so hard in my life for peace, to bring world peace, and yet look what I just did. Does this make me evil?”

Lily: And that brings us to something we did in our early work together. We were told to write this note on a Post-It, metaphorically, and stick it on our foreheads so we could not forget. “I am divine. I am also human. And I hold the key.” That’s the whole point of all of this. We are those things. We make mistakes, we fall down, every single one of us every day. The more we can learn to forgive ourselves and each other, the more we are choosing the divine side.

I’d like to read the Bible passage that Barbara was talking about and a couple of paragraphs about my realization of what this means. This was a huge breakthrough for me. The scripture says [Luke 14:26],

“If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, and yes, his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”

Initially I was told that the first part of this verse meant that we should hate and push away our own family if we weren’t Christian enough. I never understood how Jesus, who taught that love was the answer, would encourage hate of any kind, much less hatred of our family and even our own lives.

Then one day I was struck by a new truth. If you read the verse again and consider this possibility, I think you’ll see. Jesus is not saying that we should hate our family and our lives, he is saying that we do. He is also saying that he can show us how to heal so that we can turn from hate to love.

Jesus is saying that we must first acknowledge that we sometimes hate even the people we love the most. In order to heal, we need to take responsibility for the things we do that cause hatred to arise. We need to own it, bear our own cross, and then release it to the divine. When we don’t accept personal responsibility, we come to Christ pretending that we are already whole, and we say things like, “I don’t hate my own life, and I would never hate anyone.”

Until we learn to accept our judgments, learn from them, forgive ourselves and others, and let it go, we are not as prepared for discipleship as we think we are. In fact, we are inhibiting our own healing by the façade we wear, and Christ knows he can’t move forward with us until we accept this and come before him in truth and humility.

Barbara: That was very profound in our conversation about it. It parallels Conflict REVOLUTION in that we look outside ourselves—“My mother-in-law hates me”—to bringing it back in to where we can accept and admit and embrace the truth that maybe we hate ourselves, maybe we can’t forgive ourselves, and then we can work on it in that inner place where the Christ consciousness and the divinity are working with us.

Lily: I can sum up one of the biggest lessons in my life. I spent so much of my life wondering, “Why don’t they treat me like I want to be treated? Why don’t people treat me well?” And finally I got it turns around: “Why don’t I treat me the way I want to be treated?” And I didn’t know how yet.

Barbara: Let’s talk about forgiveness. We’re working our way to bring in the Trigger of Trump. It’s a tough conversation here. Not that Lily is a Trump supporter, but she is a self-declared Republican, and I’m a former Democrat, and we have had political conversations in the past. But the idea of Trump and the administration and the evil, the decisions for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many—especially environmentally—make these times very confusing for those of us who are spiritual seekers, for those of us who want to make a difference in the world.

Einstein, when he was alive, was trying to work in the arena where the conflicts were being created. He was getting nowhere. There wasn’t going to be a world government. Humans weren’t going to rise up and form economic coalitions that were all about world peace. I believe that when he got into Afterlife he realized that the place he had to work was within each individual. World peace, one person at a time, starting with the self. So what is forgiveness about?

Lily: The first thing that comes to my mind when I think about forgiveness or when I’m talking to someone who needs help about forgiveness is that forgiveness is a gift you give yourself. It may or may not have anything to do with the other person. It doesn’t mean that what the other person did was OK. It means that what they did is their job in life. That’s their healing work. What I do in my life is my job. I owe it to myself to work toward forgiveness so that I can let it go, so I can heal my life and not be burdened forever by what someone else did, meaning to or not meaning to. I’ve been hurt by people and found out they didn’t even know I was hurt. We hold this stuff.

I would say the first thing to remember is that forgiveness is a gift you give yourself. That’s what I love so much about the work we do. A lot of people are burdened well after the person who hurt them has died and gone, and they think they can never resolve that inner conflict and that pain because they can’t talk to the person, they can’t get the person to say the right words or do the right things. You can do this work all by yourself. You do this work all by yourself. You don’t have to have the person who has gone on in their life or who has died come back and help you resolve your conflict. You can resolve your conflict yourself.

When we start talking about this idea of forgiving Trump, I keep saying I’m in charge of me. I will find the projects that fill my heart and soul and I will give my time and resources to those projects. I will stand up and say I don’t agree with this, but I don’t want to spend my life, the next four years, upset. I want to spend my life giving toward the things that I believe are valuable. That’s how I’ve been viewing what’s going on in the world right now.

Barbara: Maybe forgiving Trump is not really the question. In Conflict REVOLUTION, if I’m triggered by Trump, I create that sound bite of how to encapsulate his actions, turn it to me, and use it as a metaphor and an archetype to find out where in my life I’m doing those things. Like with Scott Walker —Trump is sort of a super-sized Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, who did the same thing to the state. The first time I did the revolution of Walker, which was very hard, because clearly he’s an evil man, look at what he’s doing! But when I created the sound bite of, “he’s doing something illegal.” What does illegal mean? It means it has to be hidden, and if it came out, there would be consequences.

I brought that into myself. I found a situation that had happened years before—because I don’t do illegal things. I don’t break the law. But when I put it as an archetypical metaphor, I had to look at the situation with an artist who was going to let me use her photo for my book cover, and one thing led to another and a lot of confusion happened, and I did some things that really, if they had come out, I would have had to have consequences.

I immediately wrote her and told her what had happened, and I had to forgive myself. I was so ashamed. So here I am, in my world I’m working on what I think I’m feeling with Scott Walker, and suddenly it’s two years before, an incident I didn’t even remember I had done at the expense of the many for the benefit of the few. I had to not only feel and breathe my shame, change my thinking, but I then had to take action. I had to take an action that would amend the situation, and this particular situation, because this woman still was my friend.

But clearly forgiveness, I think we both agree, about your own relationship to yourself that gives you an inner peace so you don’t have to spend your whole life in resentment. That’s what for me the Trigger of Trump in the last Re-boot was, that I was not triggered by the horrible things that they’re doing. Maybe it’s that I have been through Wisconsin and I’ve worked through a lot of this externalizing of it. But for me it was the people who were giving Obama a pass when he did the very same things that Trump is doing. I had to examine, how am I those people? Long story short, it came out with my reticence and my insecurity about bringing this information forward and saying it was Einstein and standing up and taking it forward.

With Trump, he and the administration or the people, the alt-right people, fall somewhere on the spectrum. There aren’t any easy answers for how we’re going to approach this situation.

Lily: Because I’m dealing with people in my life, I’ve said from day one, “Yes, he’s an arrogant ass,” forgive my language. He’s a lot of things. He’s also a brilliant man. But I’m dealing with people in my life who are so angry at what has happened and the fact that he was elected and he’s arrogant and he’s perceived as a bully. They’re acting exactly like him in their own lives. Again, forgiveness doesn’t make him right. It doesn’t have that much to do with the other person. But to treat your own friends and family the same way this bully is treating other people and that’s why you’re so angry, he’s the excuse you have to do it in your own life? There’s your choice today to put you on the end of the spectrum that you don’t want to be on, and you don’t even see it.

It’s just like Einstein. He thought he was doing the right thing, and then it turned out that it killed a lot of people and he felt really badly. This is what we do in this life, those constant daily choices, over and over and over again, doing the best you can to choose life.

Barbara: In that same vein, when he was elected, I immediately knew I had to go into a loving stance, otherwise it was going to kill me. After three years of Scott Walker and fighting in the arena in which the conflict was talking place, I was sick, exhausted, hopeless. We talked on the last show about the cycle of hopelessness. I didn’t even know there was one, but I’d lost all hope. I’d become apathetic. That’s not good for me. That doesn’t make me an effective change agent in what we’re facing.

But when I started to put forth the idea that we need to find the people who voted for Trump who were looking for a change—who were given bad choices anyway (both choices kind of sucked) so they picked one—and educate, reach out, find the common ground. I was shocked at how many “liberal Democrats” got on my case. “No! Are you kidding? We’re not going to normalize this!” And they blocked me on Facebook, my friends who I’d stood side by side with in Wisconsin blocked me for suggesting that we call upon love.

That gave me the clue that there was a big change going on, and I’m not really sure what is the definitive answer to how to face this apparent fascist takeover of our government that could have the potential to escalate into a Nazi Germany.

Lily: And how we do that is, we remember who we are, what we believe we’re made of. They can’t make you be mean to each other. I’m dealing with this issue with my children. I said to my son just yesterday, “OK, he’s a bully. You’re not. Make your choices every single day that align you with divinity, with the spirit of good and compassion.”

We are way many more than just the people in Washington. If Bernie Sanders didn’t show us that, this grassroots movement of people who said, “We’re going to do this, take care of ourselves, get involved.” That’s all we have to do every single day, make our choices, not shrink and hide, make sure that we’re making the best decisions we can in love. I’m seeing random acts of kindness erupt all over the place.

Barbara: I agree. There’s a lot of amazing stuff that is exciting to me. I’m hesitant to say it in my social media forum sometimes, because I don’t want to get blasted by my progressive liberal friends, but the whole awakening of the consciousness, the women’s march, the protests at the airport. I came in from Jamaica and here was the airport filled with people screaming at the top of their lungs to stand in support of that love. There are so many great awakenings that are coming from this.

I wanted to bring in the example, too, of the Standing Rock Sioux and the Lakota-Nakota-Dakota Nation. I was fortunate to be at Standing Rock on a few occasions, and the power of prayer that was demonstrated by these people was like nothing I’d ever experience. The day they gave back the possessions of the people they had wrongly arrested, the police just threw them in plastic bags. Chief Looking Horse forgave them, prayed the Morton County police. We did a huge ceremony of the four directions. I was transported into this place.

I bring this up because they, of course, look seven generations out. Their actions today are reflective of how they will impact seven generations. In keeping with that, I also think that our actions should also reflect an understanding of seven generations. In my world, that can be reincarnation. Allegedly, according to Jesus in Party of 12, he reincarnated 27 times as Jesus of Nazareth in the same DNA space-time body at the same time, but he made different choices and did different things. So 27 generations? Or in whatever year seven generations out from now will be, will I reincarnate? What will I bring in that next life? Will I bring a greater understanding? Or will I struggle, he said-she said, good-evil, back-and-forth, not really transcendent?

I think Conflict REVOLUTION and Einstein, from his deeply passionate place in Afterlife, after his very intense life, has brought us this knowledge and this formula for how to become that change.

Lily: Would Albert have brought this work back into the world from Afterlife had he not made the decision he made about encouraging Roosevelt to build the bomb and all those people died? I’ve never thought of it that way until just now. Had he not made that decision in fear—we have to admit that’s fear-based: he went into his fear, he made this choice, he influenced something in the world that he was then dreadfully sorry for and had to forgive in his own life. Part of his forgiveness of himself I think is what he’s sending to the planet now.

Barbara: And that makes me tear up. In going back to the beginning of describing the minutiae of how we took the information from a channeling session on January 26, 1994, read it while we were having a fight, and instantly saw how making that different choice brought not only a different direction for us, but in that moment, I couldn’t have loved you two any more. It was so much love to sit down and say, “I hate my friend!” Theoretically, to say, “OK, I’ve been being crappy to my friends. I didn’t realize that.”

If we hadn’t had that conflict, I never would have—so that moment, that moment was a victory for Albert Einstein. It’s a personal one. We always said after the fact we felt like the angels had filled up the dining room and were watching and all applauding.

Lily: I wish we could help you understand what happened that day. Just talking about it, just reading the words on the page of what we went through on that day, does not capture it. Something happened in that moment, what’s the word? Alchemy. Turning lead into gold. It got us from, “I hate you, it’s all your fault!” to “Oh, my God, I can see what I’m doing, and I love you because you showed it to me. I love you because now I see it in myself and now I can heal it! Thank you.”

Barbara: Imagine, in the big seven generations of Albert Einstein, in that moment of seeing the process that he figured out—we have to change each individual, we have to require each individual to change themselves one step at a time, to watch it in action, to watch the success. I guess I never looked at it that way until this moment. It’s overwhelming to realize that we were volunteers and were chosen to be in that moment. And from that, everything else has sprung. Wow!

Is there anything else you want to share about your book, your work, your life? I know it’s coming out on Easter.

Lily: It is. April 16, 2017. Working feverishly on my website right now to get everything to come together at the right time. It will be what it’s meant to be.

I’m grateful for this opportunity to talk to y’all and share this message. It’s up to us. That’s what Jesus said. “Greater things that I’ve done, you will do.” We have to step into that power. He left us all that we needed to know. I talk about that in the book. He left us all we needed to know to do this, and we are reinforced by the work of Einstein and the Party and the angels.

I was thinking a moment ago that A Course in Miracles says something along the lines of, “The holiest place on earth is where an ancient hate has become a present love.”

Barbara: Oh!

Lily: This information is universal. We are supported. We are loved. We are encouraged as we go through these experiences that we came here to have. Sometimes it just doesn’t come in a pretty package, but it’s still a gift.

Barbara: That’s Still under construction.

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It is February 26, 2017. Here we are in the second part of our telechannel. I am in beautiful Minneapolis with my friend Kimberly Lilith Phelps, and you are all over. Let’s take a moment to close our eyes and take some deep breaths. As you breathe, think about the spectrum of potential that exists within you. Understand that it is not a sin or a fatal flaw or some disruption in the mechanism, but that the human consciousness was specifically designed to create the entire spectrum, from the worst most possible evil to the highest most divine good.

And we will command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.

It is such a pleasure to be here on this glorious day with all of you. Your conversations have so much power. The ideas that you are bringing forth and honoring and articulating are exactly what this world needs to hear right now. Everything that Barbara and Lily have been talking about is accurate and true. This work is being done not just by those of you who are listening, not just by Lily and Barbara, but also by millions of people around the world dedicated to becoming the change. Never before have there been this many people living on the planet with that awakening consciousness within them.

And indeed, it is the Christ consciousness that is making itself known to be human, humans, shall we say. Jesus, who always has been a very integral part of the Party of 12, comes again to illustrate and demonstrate through humans the idea of being human and being divine. His life on earth in the physical body was a demonstration of what is possible for any human.

This time on the planet, 2017, is like no other time that comes before it. When Jesus walked the earth during that time period and the development of the human mind and the human intellect was at a certain level of consciousness, he was dealing with an entirely different set of intellects and intelligences and human consciousness.

The New Operating System

Today (and all of you who are listening to this are included in this) this is, in fact, a new human. You are all embodying the new human prototype, and we are so honored and excited to be watching this emerge. We don’t want to talk too much about your political system. We don’t want to focus on any one individual who represents evil to you.

Because if you look at humans, there are those who support the person that you think might be doing the evil, who perceive others as actually being the ones who doing the evil. So there are those who truly perceive that the individuals in the Middle East who are known as ISIS, who are truly doing evil things, are the ones you as humans need protection from. And so much like Einstein, who urged Roosevelt to develop nuclear weapons and then watched as it destroyed humans, there are people on the planet who are looking in that way, who are seeing true evil but taking actions that are not addressing their own safety.

So it doesn’t matter which evil you put in front to address, whether it’s ISIS, Trump, Hitler, any number of world leaders who have been tyrants, who have destroyed lives and killed people. That doesn’t matter. What matters most is that each individual can look at those others whom they perceive as doing this evil and understand the true nature of what is going on. This is a spectrum where you yourselves must choose.

Saying No to Compassion

The idea of being able to say no to the voice of God is an important piece of your structure. God can come to you in the way of Intuition and tell you, “Rest your body,” and you can say no and make decisions that push you forward into making decisions for the good of the few—the ego that wants to be in charge—at the expense of a many.

Your Intuition, your Emotion, your Witness, and your Body are innate characteristics of being human. Now is the time when humans are arising to this truth and making the conscious choice to be the one who is going to make decisions for the good of the whole, starting with the self. Even though at this juncture in our experimentation we cannot guarantee anything, we can tell you that if you start with this basis inside yourself, where you are going to be ruled by an alignment to Compassion—guided by the voice of Intuition (which is the voice of the compassionate God within you), training the Intellect to do the bidding of the Intuition—then you will create a groundwork and be able to plant seeds in that energy of your own self that will grow to be the divine world that you’re seeking to create—where:

… The manifestation of the divine is on the forefront and where the spectrum of evil to divine gets unified into a spectrum of decisions guided by Intuition.

The Voice of Intuition

Oftentimes, because Intuition will impel you to take an action that may not logically impact the situation like you want it to, nonetheless, Intuition has a much broader amount of information given to it by the Observer out in the heavens, which is sending all the information of what’s happening in the Lens back to the Source, coming up your gravitational wave, being a part of your Intuition. It knows a much, much bigger picture than your Intellect will ever know. And even if you have a visionary Intellect like Barbara does, where you can see pictures of the future, your Intuition supersedes any intellectual power.

So to live by this system is what sets you up to manifest that greatest good on the planet.

The more that you can remove your own descriptions of how the future should unfold—what you want to see happen to unfold, what you think is good and divine that should unfold, what you judge is evil that shouldn’t be happening—your Intuition always, always will tell you the next step for the good of the whole. Your Intellect cannot. Your Intellect, however, must be the one that makes the conscious choice to listen to the Intuition and then make the decision to implement that step into action.

Einstein and the Bomb

In that sense, if we go back to Einstein making the decision to urge Roosevelt to create the atom bomb that then killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese people, he was following his Intuition based upon the circumstances of the times that he was in. He wasn’t conscious of looking seven generations. He thought he was taking action to protect the seven generations. He wasn’t aware that his fear-based decision-making would have such an influence as it did. And yet, in the greater, bigger, bigger, bigger picture of things, in the lifelong history of the planet earth to emerge humans onto the gardens, he was playing his part.

In that time, there could not have been another choice for him. There was no other choice for him to make in that time. Quite ironically, perhaps, had he not pushed this forward, had the U.S. not developed the nuclear weapon, it very well could have been that Germany had, and other massive damage was done, not to Japan, but perhaps to the U.S. In that sense, he would not have felt a personal responsibility that would drive him in Afterlife to the utmost end.

Oftentimes humans who have terrible things happen to them, whether they choose to do it—someone who chooses to murder someone—or whether it’s done to them—someone is murdered or some other evil act takes place—each has an impact that can be leading to the spectrum of divinity. It’s doesn’t guarantee it. It’s not a given. But when the murderer has perpetrated this act, if you look past it, there is a cooperative dance with the soul of the one who was murdered. Maybe you can’t see all other lives where they murdered each other back and forth. It doesn’t make it any less evil on a spectrum. But every act gives that human the opportunity to then rise above and transcend the spectrum.

Rather than having a left and right spectrum, where over here on the left is the evil and over here on the right is the divine, we want to switch it to where it’s up and down. On the most primal human physical world in the Lens, that is where evil is most likely to be manifest. And “up” in the divine, in the non-physical, in the whole system, in understanding your whole system, that is the divine, where you are living in the consciousness of God. Understanding your whole entire system, not just the Lens, not just your physical body, but your spirit, the gravitational wave, the string that spins, the three-pronged human intention, the compilation of consciousness coming out of the void—the whole ball of wax. That is what divinity is, living in that truth.

And when you are living in that truth, and there’s a part of you that is literally conscious when you’re going over the North Pole and back into the center of the earth, that spinning string, that is when you begin to alignment to Compassion. Because becoming aware and awake and conscious in that part of you that is close to the center of the earth in Emotion, in the part of the wave that is Emotion, by working on bringing that consciousness to life at that point in your entire operating system, you also instantly affect in your physical body your feelings. They’re interrelated: they reflect each other, feelings with a small F, Emotion with a capital E.

This is divinity. This is living in the alignment where Intuition impels Intellect to take action to fulfill the impelling of God that is in you. That is the way. Sometimes Intuition impels, as we say, in ways that you don’t understand with your Intellect. You’ve all had the experience where us think Intuition told you to do something, but then it turned out all verklumpt. It didn’t turn out to be what you think is for the highest good. But that is the challenge. You cannot judge what [outcome] is for the highest good.

The Trigger of Trump

So in the political arena, it’s very clear that having the candidate who may appear to be the most supportive of you might have been the least good for the whole. Because people might not have engaged as much as they have, as much as they are, standing up for each other, standing up for themselves. And therein lies the irony and the paradox of this work that we are doing with you, and of course the work of the ages of accepting whatever is happening right in front of you, no matter how evil it looks, as divine. Because the very fact that you’re sitting there in a physical body observing whatever’s going on around you is the manifestation of the miraculous power of Compassion and God. It doesn’t matter if you’re sick or fat or making good decisions or living a life of peace.

Just the very fact that your energy has merged with Compassion to create consciousness, and your consciousness has merged with the mathematics in your compilation to create mass and matter is a miracle that will need years and years and years in understanding from science. When you start with that, you also have to understand that the spectrum from evil to divine is a spectrum that exists within the Lens. Evil does not exist outside of the Lens. It is a byproduct of human decision-making. Without your physical body, when the Lens disappears but your string is still spinning with thoughts, feelings, senses, memories, and the hologram of your DNA in a space-time body, you are back to pure divinity, pure perfect creation.

HIGHLIGHT As Lily said, becoming human is about creating a physical space-time DNA body that is the housing of the energy that is married to Compassion that has formed this consciousness that is then married to the map of the physical world that is coming up through the center of the planet and into the Lens, creating the physical body, projecting all of that miraculous information out of the body through your thoughts, feelings, senses, and then revolving and coming back to you so you’re perceiving that universe. That alone is a divine process that cannot be undercut by any decision you make within your human form.

Now, humanity may very well make decisions that destroy the world, but the consciousness remains. The energy doesn’t die. A new world will be born. There will never be an end to creation. It will create in different ways. But right now, our desire is to inspire you to become those gods, to understand the power that you have within yourself, to set your intention to live a life where you are dedicated to making decisions for the good of the whole that start within you and then are projected out naturally into the environment.

Be Your Own Scientist

All of you who have experimented with this so far and changed your lives by using our suggestions and our processes (and others that aren’t labeled as ours), you have experienced you yourself picking up your power and changing your life and seeing how your change within you has affected the manifestation of the physical world around you. You’ve seen people you’ve previously been fighting with, who you thought were doing evil acts against you, shift and transform to where now you have peace with them. Not by going at them, not by trying to make them change, but by realizing that they’re a projection of your inner world. What can you learn from that projection if you’re triggered by it? What gift has that person come to give you if you’re triggered emotionally by it?

So not only do you revolve your focus back and find areas in your life you may not have ever seen if that person had not come to trigger you and be in conflict with you. They led you to Emotion that has abscessed that you may never have known was there. This dance of great cooperation is the very reason you are here.

We feel so optimistic right now. We understand that there is a lot of strife and destruction and evil going on in the Lens of your world right now and you are scared and stressed out. But what we see is a huge awakening. One of the reasons that we know this and that we’re so optimistic is exactly what has been talked about here today.

When we began these experimentations with Teresa and Lily and Barbara, it was a chaotic mess. And there were times when these three women used to call it “blowing themselves up,” when they would not speak to each other. If you just took it at face value, you would think it was a miserable failure. But over time, with each individual doing her own work, they have transformed their relationship, transformed their world together, transformed their individual lives first. Now there is a peace, and on the other side of it is the synergy of creation.

Anything is possible. What are you going to intend to create with this powerful energy that you have within you that’s married to Compassion that then merged that consciousness with the math to create the matter that you are experiencing? This is your creation. You get to work within that framework. What you are going to create, to intend? Take it from us. This is a time of such brilliance and great awakening all across the planet. Do not let yourself be stressed out and dragged down and fooled by what you perceive are those decisions that are being made.

We can tell you what we know and what Einstein has learned: it won’t matter what is happening as far as the evil, such at Hitler did, such as you may perceive Trump or the administration as doing. You cannot change it by going directly at it. For all of Einstein’s consternation about what Hitler was doing and his great devotion for traveling the planet and trying to fix the conflict at the level that it was being created, he did not succeed. He did not succeed in the short-term goal of stopping the Nazi empire from expanding. Part of what happened was an economic force. The economics ran its course with the Nazis. Part of it was a shifting momentum of how war operates. But even though the war ended, it did not end war. So it was a short-term fix, only to have it reemerge today with this global threat.

So don’t feel guilty if you can’t stop this movement by going directly at it. We’re not saying don’t go and march or write to your senator or congressperson or participate in that movement. But do that as an adjunct to this deeper understanding and to this deeper work that you now know how to do.

We are here as advisors. It is a strong purpose that brought together the original Party of 12. Each of those individuals, when they were in their DNA space-time bodies, had a passion for life on earth, for their environment, and their realm of where they were working. Upon losing their bodies, they came together to see if they could make this different, and we are seeing great, enormous success.

We have often said as well that what we are doing is something that is planting seeds. We see the seeds are growing. We are elated to see that the seeds that we have planted in Teresa and Lily and Barbara are growing into the magnificent outcome that we had hoped.

This growth won’t stop. In fact, after their passing, there will be an even bigger movement, and this information is so far ahead of its time that it will only continue to grow. But it is dependent upon you as human beings making decisions, making your commitment to do work for the good of the whole.

Q & A

With all of that said, we would like to open for any questions or conversations you might have.

Q: Hello! Thank you. That was lovely. My question has to do with, sometimes it feels that it takes a lot of time to do a revolution. It isn’t always fast. Some revolutions I’ve been working on I will work on for a year or more. Could you address how to feel more comfortable with that? When we look at the outer world and think things are happening so fast, how can our process where we sometimes have to be very patient with ourselves, with other people, with the process, taking time to dig deeper, how can we feel not like we’re not going to be able to keep up because sometimes the peace process take more time? It isn’t just building a bigger gun or bigger warfare.

A: What’s important to remember is that it is about what you achieve in a day. It’s not about measuring your actions against what you see happen in the news headlines or the latest story from the White House or the suffering and the pain of people around you. It is measured internally.

We did a series once called “World Peace in a Day.” It was reflective of that fact that if your body is the projector and the perceiver of the universe, then you are the world. You have the world inside you. And if at any time in the course of the day in which you’re living you can bring peace within you, that contribution is the seed that is planted. If you’re looking for patience, think of yourself as walking around the garden and sticking the seeds into the fresh spring earth and then standing there and belittling yourself because you don’t have a whole corn plant or your geraniums haven’t bloomed yet! What’s wrong with you? The world is going to hell!

Part of it is a nurturing of the self and instilling in you a repetitive, “Begin again. Begin again. Begin again.” Always begin each day as a brand-new day, and in any day you can’t find peace. [This is] world peace in a day. This is why you’re here, as Lily had said. You’re coming here to tackle all these issues. So even though you’re tackling all these questions, even though you’re feeling the frustration of it, it’s not that you’re doing it wrong. It’s that you’re doing it right because you’re doing it, however you nurture that relationship with yourself each and every day. Then there comes a point of faith, where you have to put your money where you mouth is. If this is what you believe to be the truth, you really have to live that way.

But the bottom line is feeling and breathing, because there are deep embedded abscesses of emotion that are stuck in the center of the earth from years and years and years and centuries and decades and all of this time that has passed where war didn’t stop war, partly because it hasn’t emptied that abscess in the planet.

So you as the whole planet have to keep emptying that abscess. It’s why you’re here.

Our suggestion is, when you get frustrated, give yourself activity alongside of the work you’re doing on yourself, alongside the work you’re doing in the world, to enjoy and appreciate and find a way to love life. Find a way to experience the deep gratitude of love that you have in this physical body—that you’re alive regardless of what’s going on around you—and do things that bring you so much joy, whether it’s an afternoon nap, your dancing, meeting new people, going for a walk in nature—you must make those choices also to find a way to love your life just as it is.

Q: I really like the writings from the Michael entity. There are a bunch of channels who write about the information from the Michael entity, about how people have different soul ages and how you go through different lifetimes, baby, infant, young soul, mature old soul. When I learned about that, it helped me let go and relax and accept people a lot, because I figure people are in their soul stages and it seems to fit. What’s your input on that whole concept?

A: We agree with the concept that there are conditions that you experience as a human being where now you’re in a physical body and you are experiencing the conditions of a young soul. That is, a human being who isn’t really tapped into empirical knowledge that you bring with you into that life. It’s like everything is fresh and new. That can go both ways as well. Just because there’s a young soul doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed that you’re going to be making mistakes or acting like an idiot. There’s freshness about it. And you can certainly superimpose each stage of life to the stage of the condition of your soul.

We feel that at this point there are many, many old souls who have chosen to come together at this time to bring that collective knowledge to the planet to be a synchronistic force of change of the evolution of human consciousness. But there are certainly still fresh souls, new souls, and teenage souls. And being an old soul, again, doesn’t guarantee that it’s all wisdom. There are people who are old in life who struggle with happiness, who are depressed at being at the end of life. There’s no guarantee that any one place on that spectrum will be better or more powerful than the other. It just is clearly a way to delineate sometimes between the conditions that humans are experiencing.

Q: I have another question. I look at life like there are all these souls who have all these chances to come on earth, and as time progresses (I know with the concurrent lives that whole idea of time is, I don’t know, I don’t get that, but …) I see that as time progresses some people who were alive with Hitler, all those people who were incarnated at that time got that experience and learned the lessons of that. And it makes sense to me that we repeat things, there’s some repeating just because souls who needed to learn those lessons and have those same types of experiences have to be able to have a chance to come, and that’s maybe why someone else like Hitler will come, because someone else needs to learn those lessons, too. Does that make sense?

A: Yes. And it is, in fact, the continual cycle of creation that is in play there. For example, those people who died in the Holocaust, because of the way that they died and the way that they lived at the end of their lives, their souls became a collective consciousness of Compassion. The people who perpetrated these things against them, the guards, all of the millions of people in Germany in support of the Final Solution and the Nazis, they, too, became a kind of group consciousness in Afterlife, learning about the impact of their decision-making. You can see a big auditorium filled with a debate, one side and the other, being able to have dialogue with those who died in the death camps, to be able to give them an opportunity to reincarnate and bring that balance.

What you saw was, for example, in 9/11, that many, many of the victims of 9/11 had been part of that group consciousness of the guards and supporters of the Holocaust. This is the nature of reincarnation and the nature of the creation of life. What we’re trying to do is to help end that karmic return so that you as an individual making decisions for the good of the whole and being very conscientious of all of the truth of history. You’re going to contribute to the unification of the human consciousness to where the idea that making decisions for the good of the whole means that if you harm another part of the whole, you’ve just harmed yourself. So now we have to recreate that.

It’s not a perfect science, because you have these billions of physical lives that interacted, came into Afterlife connected, and went back into the next life connected with a flip on things. It’s not a perfect science, but it’s what is going on right now. The more you can do this in your own life, the more you can help bring that unification in the longer term.

In other words, there are people maybe in your youth who were mean to you and hurt you. For you to find forgiveness means that you release that resentment, that attachment from them, that you find a peace within, that you find the reflection and heal your own, and then find love for them. That means you’re free now. You’re no longer doing this dance back and forth together, coming back in and living out these different lives. What will that look like, when humanity reaches that point? Then you have achieved heaven on earth.

Q: I hear energy healers talk about how energy is—some people say it’s speeding up or the earth is rotating faster or there’s getting to be a higher frequency. How is that affecting us physically? What is that about? Is that part of, as we get more enlightened, that happens? Are we achieving this, or is it just part of the progression of life that would happen no matter what we were doing?

A: It is a collective consciousness that is changing, but of course, the collective consciousness is just the product of millions of individual consciousnesses. You are a reflection of that collective consciousness.

But what is speeding up is that you as Cassandra allow your consciousness to become aware of the whole of who you are. So you’re not just in the Lens now, you’re conscious in the three human dimensions on the gravitational wave that is in the non-physical and in the center of the earth. You’re conscious of the part of you out in the heavens that’s observing. You’re conscious of the string that’s spinning down. What’s happening is that in those non-physical parts of the operating system, there isn’t time. Everything moves at the speed of light squared. But when that wave comes up to the surface of the planet and breaks through into the Lens and creates your physical body to be the projector and the perceiver, in that Lens, everything slows down to the speed of light and is separated.

But the more that you as a human, with that body that’s projecting and then perceiving, allow your consciousness to open up and you can be aware of these other places, you are bringing into the Lens a faster speed of light squared that exists all around you outside [the Lens]. So it’s not necessarily destroying the speed of light in the Lens, but it is overlaying the speed of light (M) with the speed of light squared (M2) of the non-physical that exists in the rest of your operating system.

And that whole operating system, when it gets to the Lens, slows down and everything separates and the chair is no longer inside you. That’s true. But also in that is the non-physical. In that, you have feelings, you have thoughts. Those are the non-physical. They exist in the place that’s traveling at the speed of light squared. So it’s a unification of those two worlds.

And it isn’t automatic because you’re human. It isn’t that every human will be consciously experiencing this. Some humans may not be consciously experiencing it. It still might be having an effect on them, making them sick or worry or confused because they don’t really understand what energy does, how energy works. They’re working just in the Lens and so they’re looking for answers that impact just in the Lens.

You as a doctor understand that sometimes people’s emotional state is so disrupted and they have no idea that it’s happening, but their physical body is responding to it. Your job is to not just treat their body, but bring their Intellect and their Intuition and their Emotion into view for that person so that they can begin making different decisions about how they’re going to deal with and release all that energy. It’s a very individual relationship that every human has to this expanding consciousness and this unification of the entire operating system.

Q: So to summarize, it sounds like as we collectively—the collective consciousness—as we evolve, we’re contributing to the speeding up of energy. It sounds like this is happening all over the earth to everyone, because even if people aren’t consciously working on it, it’s affecting them.

A: Yes.

Q: But some people will be able to work with it more easily than others, is that right?

A: Yes. Those of you who have trained yourselves to understand what energy is, how it operates, will have a different relationship to it. It’s much like before you went to medical school, long before you became a doctor and didn’t know anything about how the human body operates in conjunction with itself. You went through a learning process, and now you have a whole lot of different ways that you would approach healing a physical ailment than you did before you went to medical school.

It’s the same way with energy. You and everyone who’s listening to this have been studying how energy works, so you’ll have a different relationship to it. When you feel anxiety, it’s more likely that you will choose to get out of your head and start to breathe that anxiety and attach an intellectual description to it that is loving and kind and says, “Here’s this wave of anxiety. I’ll use my breath to move it.” That’s a very evolved way of dealing with this very highly accelerated speed of light squared energy.

Other people don’t have that language, that focus, and they only know that they’re discomforted, so they’ll maybe go to the doctor and the doctor will give them some pills to make them not feel that anxiety. That is a whole other set of repercussions that come up for that individual making those decisions. So yes, you are correct in those assumptions.

Q: This whole idea of energy work is getting more popular, with Healing Touch and acupuncture and all techniques. It’s really exciting. It seems like it’s effective. But I always feel like it’s more of a short-term thing. Is that enough to get some people to where they just keep getting energy treatments? I feel like that’s a really healthy thing to do, but I want to do the other stuff, too. Can you review that?

A: It is as you say, a shorter-term opening. It serves to take some initial steps to get people acquainted with what emotional energy feels like in their bodies and how to adjust it in their body.

But eventually the goal is to have people be so self-aware and so self-monitoring that they not only understand and can feel this Emotional energy, but they understand that the decisions that they make affect how that emotional energy works within their body. The ultimate healing and control takes place within their own mechanism with the expansion of their own understanding of themselves. But in the meantime, those techniques to open up that energy to them are very important and very effective in those stages.

But we don’t think that humans were coming here to be dependent upon someone else or something outside themselves or some action that they take only to deal with Emotion in that way. It’s not meant to be the healthy operating system, that there’s a constant administering from without to deal with that state.

We are going to close the channel at this time and thank all of you who are listening and who have participated in this. This work is so important. We never want to see you underestimate the power of what you have within you. We are here to inspire you and inform you and educate you and sometimes prod you this way and that.

But ultimately you are the divine one. You are the soul seeking to manifest in human form the most divine human possible. You are, in fact, human. You are, in fact, divine. Every decision you make is the key to how you are going to help evolve the planet for the greatest good.

And then you only need to watch and be amazed.


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2017 Re-Boot #1 HOPE

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It is Sunday, January 22nd, 2017. This is Barbara With and the Party of 12. Happy New Year! Happy 2017! This is the beginning of a “1” year, if you’re into numerology. I’m no numerologist, but I can add. I don’t know if that makes me a numerologist, but it does add up to “one.” Everything I found on the Internet reaffirmed my feeling that this is a brand-new year like we’ve never had before.

Notes from my first reading with Junice McCoy, May 1972.
Notes from my first reading with Junice McCoy, May 1972.

Not only is it an opportunity to start over and make some great strides in accomplishing the life that you want to live, but it is, for me personally, the 30th anniversary of me channeling. I officially began to channel in 1987. I had gone to see the beloved Eunice McCoy in Minneapolis for many years and studied under her. She said she was just a big antenna and she was picking up my higher energy and somehow translating it down into what my little human mind could comprehend. So there were no dead people, no angels, no Einstein.

When I started to spontaneously channel in 1987, I knew what it was, but honestly, if you had told me then where that road would take me, I not only probably wouldn’t believe you. But if I had said that was what would happen, people would have called for psychiatric help or some kind of psychological assistance. It would have been too bizarre.

My very first spontaneous automatic writing, April 10, 1987
My first spontaneous automatic writing, April 10, 1987

But here we are! It’s 2017, and the most definitive articulation yet of the work that we’ve done with Einstein, Einstein et al.: Manifestation, Conflict REVOLUTION® and the New Operating System, is my 30-year anniversary articulation of where that road took me. It’s phenomenal—and personally humbling.

In honor of this, I am starting a year-long, once-a-month free telechannel of this nature. I’m calling it the 2017 Reboot Camp. We’ll begin at the beginning and fully intend to install this new operating system into our own energy. I am making this work available, partly, of course, for the selfish reason that I love having a support group of my own, but for people who want to learn how to do this—how to not just do good work in the world and align to compassion and be better people and help the species evolve, but to live lives that are worth living that we make as big as we can.

9780991010936cvr2.inddIn 1987, if you had asked me to dream as big as this, that I would be putting out a book with the Party of 12 and Albert Einstein that explains how matter is manifest on every level, the unified field theory, tested by people all over the world—that’s a pretty big dream. I don’t know if I could have. Good thing I didn’t have to!

This year, with this 12-part series, we’re going to support each other in our intention. You get to set your intention, so get your notebooks right now. We’ll put them down and we’ll talk about different aspects of bringing these intentions into fruition, into the physical world and changing this operating system in the next 12 [months].

I want to preface this by saying that this operating system that we’re talking about transforming is one that at its root deals with conflicts in a regenerative, creative, compassionate way. So many of us have never been taught about conflict. We still aren’t. Even the best kinds of peacemaking don’t explain why there are always conflicts. My sister said to me the other day, “Didn’t we fight for women’s rights? Didn’t we do this once 30-some years ago?”

Conflict is part of life, and this Einsteinian Conflict REVOLUTION® process that we’ve been working on for 30 years is a new operating system that takes conflict and uses it to not only help promote us as a species, but to get to the outcome for the greatest good of all: making decisions for the greatest good of all.

In a practical sense, that can elude us sometimes. I’ll admit it. I get scared and freaked out. Right now the whole world is terrified. The trigger of Trump, as I’m calling it, has brought out not just the fear, but people projecting the very worst possible futures. It’s very real. Here with the Party, there’s a reason why (not that it was my idea) that we’re working with Einstein and Hitler and Freud—people—the thoughts, feelings, senses, memories, and holograms of people who’ve had these experiences on the earth plane can give and have given us a greater perspective. Who have given us this greater perspective.

So let’s invite the participation of the willing, people who want to set the intention to become that change, to become compassion, and to experiment with us. This process, this operating system doesn’t take away anything else you’re doing. Whether it’s chemo, Judaism, psychotherapy, or math, it doesn’t take away from it, augments it. It allows you to get deeper into that place where you are.

This Reboot Camp will also feature people who not only understand this Einsteinian perspective, but who have taken it somewhere else to manifest in a very specific way of meeting people where they are. Today’s guest on the show and I have had a long conversation about how to meet people where they are, especially with this Einsteinian information. It’s not an easy read. The general population that wants to read about fashion and politics may not want to read about the root level of matter and our relationship to it. How do we take those ideas and articulate them, like a giant antenna, to these people?


My guest today, Robin Cordova, is not only a very, very good friend of mine, but a certified Conflict REVOLUTION® trainer, someone who speaks this language, has studied it and knows it. I always value her ability to help me. It’s kind of like learning French when no one else speaks French. You find someone who speaks French, and you feel like you can understand yourself and French better. She also is a certified coach. She has started what she calls the I Thrive Revolution. “I Thrive.” It’s about helping women go from just surviving to thriving in their lives, which parallels the new operating system and Conflict REVOLUTION® and Einsteinian thought.

We’ll talk today about some practical applications of what she works with—Positive Psychology—and how that overlaps with Conflict REVOLUTION®. I’m hoping that we can take this trigger of Trump and have a conversation about it. I’ve got my own triggers that are unique to me within that; we’ll see how we can apply Positive Psychology, how it all fits in together.

Thank you all for joining us here today in the conference calling room. Please welcome my friend Robin Cordova.

Robin: Good morning, Barbara. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for having me.

Barbara: I’m glad you agreed to be here. I’ve been looking forward to this conversation for a while, because you and I often talk about political things as well, we’re not just spiritual gab buddies, but we’ve been going through this Trump thing as well. In fact, you just went on the Women’s March.

Robin: Yes, yesterday. It was beautiful, peaceful, filled with men, women, families, very representative of cultures, class cultures.

Barbara: And this left you feeling hope?

Robin: It did. We had 130,000 people in Seattle in a peaceful march. There was not a single incident.

Barbara: And that was replicated around the world. To me, it brings to mind way back when I was working with Teresa and Lily in the original Psychic Sorority, years and years ago, there was a channeling called World Peace in a Day. They said that when the mothers and the fathers go out in the streets and say, “No more war, war is an obsolete form of conflict resolution,” this is that. These are the predictions that were made all those years ago about when people would stand up like this. Do you march much?

Robin: No. This is the first march I have been on. I think that it shows a hopeful future and possibly, along how you introduced the call, maybe this is a new type of year. We really are possibly in a new place, and that brings us hope, too.

Barbara: And hope is really important.

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Robin: And I’m reminded of something Einstein said on a channel back in 2012. “We are creating new moments and not casting shadows of old moments.” I try to remind myself of that so that we can look at things in a new way and not just assume that it will continue to repeat from the past.

Barbara: And that was my intention with this meeting today: to talk about the trigger of Trump. Up until yesterday, when hundreds of thousands, half a million, a million people, went out into the streets and said, “No more!” there was a lot of fear, a lot of projection about the most horrible things ever happening because of Trump. That’s a real thing. I don’t have a judgment about it either way, but clearly people have been in their fear and reacting and surviving rather than feeling like they’re thriving. From what you’ve told me when we talked before the broadcast, it changed, coming together with people in that way. It shifted out of fear into hope, into “Now let’s find some creative solutions.”

Robin: Correct. And I can go into that today, some of the hope theory from Positive Psychology can be a very powerful message. We can circle back to that after we do an introduction into what Positive Psychology is. People haven’t heard of it or they might think it’s just a “Happyology” and you’re just telling people to put a smile on their face no matter what they’re going through, and that couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s good to dismantle some of the misbelief of what Positive Psychology is and where it came from and why I feel it’s very important to me.

Barbara: Please do! I’m curious to know all those things. Share with us what it is.

Robin: Positive Psychology was coined primarily by one person, but also co-founded. Martin Seligman was the president of the Psychological Foundation [American Psychological Association] right around the turn of the century, about 17 years ago [1998. He is Zellerbach Family Professor of Psychology in the University of Pennsylvania’s Department of Psychology]. He stood in front of the scientific community, researchers within psychology, and he said, “We have failed the everyday human. We have based our entire research model, our entire therapy model, on the disease model. That really only helps around 15% of the population, and the rest we have left behind.” He co-founded it with another researcher and psychology professor, Chris Peterson, who has passed on, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a guest with the Party on the non-physical side.

Together they put out a challenge, set an intention: “We would like to see 51% of the population flourishing by 2051. To do that, we want to research what is right with people. What makes life worth living?” That’s what Chris Peterson said. That is the study of optimal human functioning. “Why are we here? What makes life worth living? We haven’t studied these things. We haven’t helped people become resilient to everyday challenges—health setbacks, loss of loved ones, loss of jobs, learning how to make difficult transitions—everyday things, not things that are in the disease model.”

So they created what they call the wellness model. Chris Peterson would say it’s “helping people go north of neutral.” The traditional psychology was looking at an arrow to the west of that. That was, we have symptoms, we have illnesses, we have death.

Positive Psychology says, “Let’s study the right side. Let’s look at first of all self-awareness.” When I think of Conflict REVOLUTION®, I can align that with the Observer. The first step is to become the Observer, to become self-aware. The next step is education. We can look at that with Conflict REVOLUTION® where we say, “Let’s look at the mirror. Let’s become aware. Let’s educate ourselves on what’s the beyond ourself. If we’re only 8% within the lens, we need to educate ourselves on the Source, the map, the electromagnetic grid. There are so many things we can educate ourselves for.” The third step is growth. Martin Seligman put that out and he got a lot of funding, a lot of researchers stepped up. Now we’re about 17 years in, and just in my Thrive course I’ve covered the work of 11 or 12 researchers, and there are many more, who have said, “What if we send positive emotion?” I thought I’d touch on that.

Barbara: Yes, please.

Robin: Another one said, “What if we study hope? What does that mean?” Martin Seligman himself did a 20-year study on optimism, what makes people optimistic? Why do we want be? He teamed with Chris Peterson and they did a three-year study, I think they had a million dollars in funding, and they studied character strength. What happens is, we focus on what’s right with people. It was a beautiful outcome. The idea is not to negate negative emotions. There’s nothing in Positive Psychology that says to repress emotions or we only want positive emotions.

But will segue into Barbara Fredrickson’s work on positivity. She’s a scientific researcher, and she took several thousand people and studied positive emotions. She said, “We know that if we’re sad, it’s because we’re mourning something, and if we’re angry, it’s because we feel our rights have been violated in some way. But nobody has studied what the benefits are when we feel joy, love, awe, excitement, curiosity, when we’re learning something.”

After quite a few years of study, she teamed up with a mathematician and they plotted it. They took all her data and plotted it mathematically and found what they called the “butterfly effect”: if we are able to consciously create in our environment a certain amount of positive emotion, then we start to flourish. They found that mathematically that ratio is about 3:1. So if you take a month of your life and say, “How much of my time do I feel that I was in positive emotional states?” and she describes about 10 of them, and “How much am I in a negative emotional state?” If I am able to shift that consciously, I start to create what she calls a broaden-and-build theory. That means that if we’re able to stay in positive emotion three times to one negative, we open up our world to more options. We start to see solutions instead of problems. We start to get ideas. I equate it to standing at the top of the Eiffel Tower, where you can see so much further than if you’re in the basement.

Her work does not say that the basement isn’t valuable, or that we shouldn’t go to the basement. That’s why I don’t feel like it can’t marry to Conflict REVOLUTION. But what it does say is that we can become aware and consciously interject within our life things that bring us joy.

For me, I love to dance. So I make sure to dance every day for an hour. That I already know will interject some extra positivity in my life. Negative emotions can narrow our focus, and sometimes we need that. Sometimes we need those negative emotions, narrow in focus. Other times we want to broaden and build. So we think about what we do to come up with new solutions. If we consciously infuse our lives with more positive emotion, then we’re going to elevate to a state where we’re at the top of the building and we can see far. Now we are all of the sudden inspired with new ideas and new solutions. She calls that the broaden-and-build theory.

Another thing that Positive Psychology has done is, one of the things that Einstein has always said is that our greatest challenge is in our negative intellect. When we get negative emotions—our fear, anger, sadness—we immediately start to marry those to the negative stories. He’s always said that our greatest challenge is unwinding those stories and aligning ourselves to super-conscious thinking. And I think that’s a beautiful thing. To me, in and of itself, that fits into the Positive Psychology category, because no matter what emotion is coming through us, if we ground into the Source and we connect with the wave as it’s coming through the lens, and then we repeat a mantra of positive thinking and we marry that to whatever emotion we’re feeling, then that is a perfect example of a Positive Psychology intervention, in my opinion.

Barbara: In Conflict REVOLUTION®, what you just described is the basis of our revolutionary new relationship to Emotion, just to offset it. There isn’t any actual Emotion that is negative or positive. The degenerative effect comes when you get to the Intellect and when the Intellect creates the negative story that then that fear or anger, formally known as a negative emotion, hits that story. So like you just described, when you let that anger come through but marry it with a regenerative, positive story, you still, I find, have the power of that emotion, whether it’s formally good or bad. There’s just a little bit of fine-tuning in the system, a little more complex place in the system, but that’s essentially what Positive Psychology does, change the story. Right?

Robin: Exactly. There’s two researchers that I could talk about. Maybe I should start with hope theory. It truly is important to have hope. Nobody has studied hope too much, but when we slide into a hopeless state, they have found that the first stage is rage, anger, or frustration. When people are feeling hopeless, which many are right now, when they look at Trump and the situation going on, it’s easy to fall into that feeling of hopelessness, and the first stage of hopelessness is rage, anger, and frustration.

Then, if they’re not sure what to do or that they understand what’s next, they slide into despair. When you get to a stage of despair, you start to make smaller investments. You start to shut down. It’s like starting into the giving-up phase. You become immobilized and resigned to complete inaction, to passivity. You start to go inward in your expression. The fourth stage is apathy, which is just complete defeat, when you no longer believe that the goal you want is attainable, and you often give up the big dream and you start to just shoot for little things. That’s what they describe as the slide into hopelessness.

When they pulled it apart and researched it—What is hope? What makes people hopeful? Then they created a map for how you build hope in your own life. The very first step is to set goals. So hopeful people have goals. As soon as we say, “Here’s what we’re headed for,” and we can start to see—whether we end up there or not doesn’t matter as much as setting an intention. Like you said, let’s start the year by setting an intention. We can call that an intention or a goal of some sort. But just having that set all of the sudden starts to build hope.

The other two components are “way power” and willpower. Way power tells us we have multiple ways to get to that goal. Willpower is the motivation to get there. If we’re feeling hopeless, then we have a structure where we can say, “I’ll start by setting goals.” They say hopeful people will set goals across many areas in their lives. They’ll have health, they’ll have relationships. That comes back to, what makes life worth living? If we’re just working all the time and we have no friendships, that’s not a very fulfilling life. Or if we have a relationship that’s not meaningful work. Hopeful people will set goals or intentions across multiple areas of their lives and they’ll create multiple pathways to get there, not necessarily getting stuck on one or another.

And then by generating strength and positive emotion, we can boost our willpower, our excitement, our motivation, our ability to self-regulate. That’s another key thing that several researchers have found, that when we allow ourselves to feel every emotion, we become able to master this character strength that Mark Seligman and Chris Peterson defined as “self-regulation”: being able to control our impulses, to maintain the focus, the vitality to head toward those goals. As you introduced at the beginning when we were talking in our previous conversation, now that the march is done, now what? How do we maintain hope?

I think the combination of Positive Psychology with Conflict REVOLUTION® is beautiful. We can take what we’ve learned and say, “How do we maintain this hope?” We do that through setting our intentions, setting goals, feeling our emotions, being aware of our positive-to-negative ratio.

The other thing we found is about taking our language seriously. This goes back to what you mentioned, marrying those stories to the negative Intellect stories. What Positive Psychology has found that the more general the negative statements we give to ourselves—this goes back to self-care/self-love piece—the higher the degree of negative emotion we’re creating.

For example, if we say, “I am a failure. I’m good at nothing. I’m worthless. I’m unworthy,” that’s a very broad statement sweeping across us. The degree of negative emotion being experienced by that personal attack is high. Positive Psychology has taught us to, first of all, step into that Observer, that self-awareness, and listen to ourselves. If we’re saying, “I’m a failure,” then we’re creating—it’s a self-attack, or in Conflict REVOLUTION® terms, as that wave comes back around, through the North Pole, and goes into the center of the Earth, back to the Source and back into the Lens, that will come up as a lot of pain.

Barbara: Yes, an abscess, as we call it. It becomes abscessed. Who knows why it’s there or when it’s there, it’s just built up. It doesn’t ever really get moving along the flow of things.

I want to jump in and talk about hope. Listening to you talk about that aspect was very affirming to me as someone—OK, let’s go back to the trigger of Trump. For the past five or six years I’ve been deeply engaged in my state government, and marches and walks and testimony and all sorts of things. I’ve been engaged and involved. There came a point where everybody went home and the government of Wisconsin—which is that our governor and the two houses and the courts are all Republican and they’re passing things that are really detrimental to us, like we’re seeing Trump is about to do.

There came a point where all those stages of hopelessness that you just described, oh, my gosh, that was me! Until I got to a point after about three years of giving it my all, where I was hopeless. I went through that whole thing and I got to apathy. But what happened was, luckily for me, that’s when Conflict REVOLUTION® kicked in. “OK, so you’ve got nothing. You’ve lost everything. The mining company has the bill. The government is corrupt. They’re going to steal our water.” Kind of like what I see people doing with Trump now.

But now that I can look back, I see that the truth was that when I stepped back to first of all not feel like I have to save the entire world, that this is a little more organic movement even though politics is rough and you don’t want your water poisoned, you still need to take care of yourself. You still need to thrive. You still need to have hope. How do you do that in the face of what I was faced with? I can tell you that what I did Conflict REVOLUTION®. It pulled me farther away from the struggle of what I was in and more into the experimental esoteric, “What is the conflict of the mining thing? Let me take that in and find the metaphor in me. Let me look at it metaphorically like an archetype. What part of my energy that I’m observing every day—” And I know what I’m looking for. It isn’t just watching yourself be crazy, you know what you’re looking for. You’re looking for those bad thoughts. In Positive Psychology, it would be the observation you’re talking about, where you’re telling yourself you’re a failure over and over and having the willpower to change it to something more regenerative, something that’ll going to give you hope, something that will find a solution.

You and I have talked about meeting people where they are, which is part of why I wanted to do this series and have other people come and show me these different sides. This movement of meeting people where they are is just as important as knowing and understanding the process. It’s that bridge like you talk about, the bridge to people who are still struggling. And let’s bring this back around to another thing, where I had my own Rev, the trigger of Trump. I had my own Rev and it wasn’t about Trump. Having lived with Scott Walker and been through the cycle for five years, I’m familiar with what’s going on conditionally like that.

But it was the other side, where I was having a great conflict with people who supported President Obama and would never acknowledge that he had actually facilitated some things that they really hate about Trump. He actually did those things. He bombed more people. He deported more people. But to me the point was, I couldn’t for the life of me find any of my friends who could sit down and have this conversation about why this is, not even adversarially. It wasn’t like, “How come you can’t—?” It was like, “I don’t get it. How do you feel about the fact that he has done all these things that when you say Trump does them, they make you scared to death?” I haven’t been able to get an answer. People either stomp out or say that I’m trashing Obama or get defensive or change the subject. The Rev for me was that archetypical metaphor of, “What do you do with people when they’re not ready to hear the truth?” OK, so with me.

That application of Positive Psychology or Conflict REVOLUTION® on that Rev, unique to me, really had nothing to do with politics. It had a lot more to do with this work. This work, especially this Einsteinian work that all of us have been engaged in or are beginning to get intrigued by. It’s pretty ahead of its time. There are people, as you and I talked about, who aren’t there. They don’t see it. I know that. It has nothing to do with if anybody’s more involved or better. This Einsteinian work is very deeply rooted in ideology, intellect, and it’s sometimes hard to find people who speak that language. I’m appreciative of everyone who does, but in the long run, going back to my hope story, when I shifted that—now I’m not saying that this is my responsibility, I’m just reporting this—the mining company pulled out and went away. And even though we’ve had the four sides of our government dominated by corporate Republicans who are passing the bills that are for the good of the few at the expense of the many, we still protected the lake. We did it. We succeeded.

I’m bringing that back to the march. It brings that hope that we don’t have to sit here in the trigger of Trump and project because we’re down at the end of hopelessness and now we’re projecting the most dismal futures, as you were talking about. Your vision gets really tiny. There are fewer and fewer resources. We don’t know what will happen in this year when we engage like we going to, like we are. We’re taking responsibility now for our own energy like we’ve never done before. We don’t know the power we have. We underestimate ourselves, right?

Robin: Right. And you bring up a good point—and part of the reason I named my business “I” Thrive Revolution is because it goes along with that theory that the most important thing is that we come back to ourselves, and that has to be our priority. That relationship is about our own self-care, self-love, self-compassion. I myself learned through some Revs that I did this fall—I finally understood the clear difference between self-care and self-compassion. They’re entirely different.

Barbara: How so?

Robin: Self-care is compassion that we take, we are caring for our bodies, we are eating good food, we are meditating, we are dancing, we are skiing—I know you love to ski, Barbara. These are self-care things, and they’re very, very important, which I’ve aligned more with the Father energy.

What I really had to learn this fall through my own Rev that I had to do was embracing and honoring the Mother energy, which is self-compassion. That part is very quiet. It’s not action-oriented. It’s just sitting down and treating yourself like you would as a kind person. Treating yourself like you think of yourself. The moment that you pause and say, “I am so sorry you’re going through this right now.” Just like you would a friend. How often do you say, “Oh, my gosh, I’m so sorry this has brought you so much sadness.”

Barbara: With your friend, hopefully you don’t say, “What the hell is wrong with you? What’s wrong with you that you have cancer?”

Robin: The mother energy. Or “What did you do wrong? Whip yourself into shape.” That’s not self-compassion. With self-compassion, you put your hand on your heart, “I’m so sorry.” I learned that from a Positive Psychology researcher by the name of Kristin Neff at the University of Austin. She teaches a lot on self-compassion. That was beautiful, too.

With all of these Positive Psychology interventions, it’s a lot like Conflict REVOLUTION® in the sense of, when you get triggered, you know it’s time to rest. You know what to do. You have a process. To me it’s a Positive Psychology intervention, probably the most powerful one.

The same thing with hope. If we feel hopeless, we get out our sheet and we say, “OK, I know how to build hope. I follow this step, this step, and this step, and I’m going to start to feel more hopeful.” If I am finding that I’m bumping into obstacles, because that’s one thing about the intervention, I’m just describing the theory, but there’s a whole set of, “Here’s what we do when we’re feeling hopeless. Here’s what we do if we’re lacking in “way” power, we don’t see the pathway to get there.” I know you had to run into that so many times. “What do you do when you hit 10 obstacles?”

Barbara: And what you’re talking about here reminds me and affirms for me that when I was going through some really deep mental health issues, 2008, 2009, 2010, every day I had to make a list of things I was going to accomplish, but they were things like, “Brush your teeth.” Three things that I could so easily do in five minutes. But I did it so that I could do it and then say I did it. I built on that.

Robin: Right! That’s a fabulous example.

Barbara: I confirmed that process you’re talking about.

Robin: And then you could feel hope. That’s so important.

Barbara: And as I succeeded, I could add more, so my competency could increase as well. “Now I can do more than just brush my teeth and go to the Post Office.”

Robin: And I think that’s a perfect example of broaden-and-build, too. You’re catching yourself. You’re building hope. You’re accomplishing things. You’re celebrating, and that brings in self-compassion. One of the things Barbara Fredrickson has said is, “We think that these fleeting moments of positivity are meaningless, but it’s quite the contrary.” It’s almost like putting a deposit in the bank. It can become fun. “Oh, my gosh, did I get some positivity in my bank today?” Making sure you squeeze it in because you’re making deposits in your bank so that when you do hit an obstacle or you do hit an adversity, it helps you become resilient because you’ve banked some positivity.

Barbara: With Conflict REVOLUTION®, we train ourselves to the best of our ability to, when in doubt, process that deep emotion with breathing. In present moment, I’ve learned through the years and I’m sure you have, too, that when you really have your back up against the wall, some stopped, intentional, focused breathing and calming everything down to allow that last tail of hopelessness to stop and you can begin to refresh and find those creative solutions, or ask for them intuitively.

Robin: Exactly. And she has hit some controversy, like all researchers do, and I admire and honor you so much in your bravery to do this work—

Barbara: Oh, thank you!

Robin: —that’s possibly a hundred years ahead of its time and the controversy that you’ve had to hit. Barbara Fredrickson had it in a tiny way when she was doing this research. She was giving a talk right when 9/11 happened, and she couldn’t get home to her family because the planes had shut down, so she ended up taking a train for a couple of days to get home. I think she was in Chicago and lives on the East Coast or something like that. It gave her the opportunity to observe something that was a very sad time. She had been given some flak of, “We can’t just do positive emotion.” But what she found is that it didn’t make you insensitive to say to yourself, “It’s important that I interject positivity in my life.” It does not make you insensitive to 9/11. She found that people who could also find gratitude and still put a smile on their faces were able to handle the deep emotion as well.

Barbara: I can attest something—maybe as disastrous to 9/11, the Trump election—that when I tried to be positive and do this, I was accused of being thoughtless and mean and rude and uncaring. It was very interesting. That was another interesting part about this trigger of Trump. And those were people who know me.

I want to wrap up this part of our conversation. We could go on and on. The setting of our intention today that we’ll do, I’d like to give everybody about five minutes. Is there anything you want to add to the idea that we can take this year and set our intentions? What does that mean? What might you be doing?

Robin: I did write that out for myself. I love doing that exercise. For me, it’s making sure that I set goals, set intentions across more than just one area of my life. For me personally it will include wonderful relationships and my work area, my passion area, my own ability to stay dedicated to Conflict REVOLUTION®, it will include a broad range. It will also include making sure that, “This is how I am going to feel, this is what I’m going to see, what things are going to smell like and look like,” to embrace a lot of the senses.

Barbara: I feel that way, too, that I want to intend that this is this really kick-ass life to live. Being there with it. I want to also—I really have a thing for this book. I’ve been wanting to get this to the scientists but have been triggered by that “Who do I think I am?” thing. I really want to intend that [to get Einstein, et al. to the scientists]. But like you say, I want to intend a life that’s relaxed and happy and feel like I’m doing all that I can and using my power, feeling like I’m really doing the best I can. So many times we are but we don’t feel like we are. We’re doing so much. I’m guilty of doing so much, but “I haven’t done enough.” Positive!

Robin: We are. And every time I talk about Positive Psychology, I tell who come to my workshops, “I need this work. That’s my own selfish reason [to do it.] My life needed these tools.”

Barbara: Yes, exactly.

Before we take the five minutes, this is from Diaries of a Psychic Sorority, and it sums up the whole mission that Einstein has shared with us, through us. This was from January 25, 1994. It was the second group that we ever did in the big groups that we were doing back then, Kim and Theresa and I. It was called “Conflict Resolution.” These were the paragraphs that changed my life, when they said:

You often come in contact with people who you think cause you conflict. This seems unavoidable. Yet you are the source of that conflict. You can look around at everyone else and lay claim to their actions and how they are causing the conflict in your life, but every conflict you’re involved with is within your own self. The source is within your own self. If you begin to look at life that way, you begin to see where your power actually lies to be able to resolve these conflicts. If you do not believe this is the basis of the evolutionary process, you only have to look at how much conflict is in your world, not just in your own personal lives, but the bigger world, the global community, the country, the state, the cities, the block, your home, and your own minds. Constantly dealing with conflicts is the road to evolutionary change. It may seem futile or counterproductive, but it’s not. It’s through the resolution of conflict that the earth plane will resolve.

Barbara: This goes back to, we’re putting in a new operating system that will process the inevitable conflict of life, because it is inevitable, and process it in this positive, regenerative way. You get to build your own system based on your life, your detail, custom-made just for you. That’s the exciting creative part right there.

When we come back, we will open up to Einstein and the Party to talk and then we will have time for questions and conversation.

Thank you so much, Robin! When I send the link out, I’ll send the information of where people can get hold of you and see more about what you’re doing.

Robin: OK. Thank you so much.

Robin Cordova
I Thrive Revolution
Bainbridge Island, WA


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It is January 22nd, 2017. I am here in Lake Superior. The rest of you are all over. I can’t say I know exactly where you’re all from. I want us to begin by closing our eyes and imagining this view from outer space looking down at the earth so that we’re all starting on the same perspective, that we’re out on a halo that goes around the earth, sitting there with our legs hanging over the side, looking at this beautiful planet.

As we look, think about the history of humanity. Sometimes when we get so focused on one time period or moment, we feel trapped. Our perspective is narrowed down into a tiny little funnel, much like Robin talked about, where suddenly you don’t have enough resources and enough way.

We will command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.

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We are so honored to have use of this space, if only for just a little while, to greet you in this most magnificent “1” year that is stretched out ahead of you like a carpet. We have a very exciting agenda for how we want to use our energy to help you use your energy.

The beginning opening invitation goes out to you now to sit in your physical body, listen to the sound of our voice as we’re talking, and become aware and be an observer of all of the cells within your body, within your organs, your muscles, in all of the biological systems that are at this very moment working together to create the portal that you have to perceiving the planet. You are the projector of that planet as well as the perceiver of it.

More than ever, we feel the time is ripening for each individual to strive to a greater height and evolutionary place than they ever have before. Part of the way evolution works is that because the creative energy of life—the life source—has programmed in its DNA the continual desire and implementation of creation constantly creating something, constantly taking something out of nothing and making it into something. Your very nature is regenerative. Your energy is, well, you can’t screw it up. You can mess up the system so that in the lens of your physical world you’re not experiencing the great miracle that’s taking place right in front of you, but you don’t screw up the miracle. That’s unscrew-upable.

In this year, 2017, we are going to, more than ever, be here to be of assistance, to help people take a big step into the manifestation of their lives. The beautiful part about this intention that we’re setting, about installing this operating system, is getting more and more people to observe themselves, having people wake up to ask, “What can I do? How can I stand up? How can I make a difference?”

When people are in that place, they’re willing. And when you get the participation of the willing, then you get a group of like-minded people who are operating as a sort of biological organism. When all of those people—a family, a town, a group—are operating under compassion, meaning that the most important thing is to make decisions for the good and the sustainability of the whole system, whatever that system is. Imagine working in a group of people who are all committed to that perspective. You could trust each other. You knew if someone experienced pain or anger they wouldn’t lash out, act out, bring in some drama. There is a whole new language. You could talk and work. And suddenly conflict didn’t become that thing you were afraid to have. “Oh, gosh, I’ve got a conflict!” It becomes an opportunity to take control of yourself and create a new outcome, very purposefully, very intentionally.

This also addresses the idea of the future. We want to talk about that right at the beginning of 2017. We have never been here working with Barbara to be fortune tellers. It was not our intention to tell people’s futures as the mode of communication. We have been able to, with a fair accuracy, speak about the future and possible futures and articulate what we see and have that then come into physical reality. But the truth is, there is such a question about how much even the telling of the future affects the manifestation of it. It may or may not, we don’t know.

Instead, what we feel we do with our vision and our insight is to give you some perspective and a process that will allow you to participate in your energy in a way that you may not have thought of before, when you’re hoping that somebody’s going to tell you the future will be good. “Will I get that job, that relationship, that child?” Instead, it’s the shift of, “Here’s what I want to create and here’s how I will do it.”

Some of the tricks (and it’s not a trick, but it’s kind of tricky) is that as you are setting this intention, whatever it is, you will certainly not set an intention that you’re miserable. You’re not going to write down, “I hope I never have enough money. I hope I never find love.” You’ll write hopeful, optimistic things and conditions that you think are advancing yourself and the world around you, making you and the world a better place.

The world needs that right now, so much so that each one of you listening to this should take it seriously about your own life, your own conflicts, in your own world. As Barbara has said, sometimes it’s difficult to sort through that as a human, because there is so much going on. There’s so much energy and change and emotion and transparency and things are moving faster and faster.

So it can be like you’re just surviving, like you’re white-knuckling it sometimes. But in this shift that we’re helping you make, the relationship of conflict comes under your control. Conflict with coworkers, with parents, any conflict—which, again, is inevitable—can become the magical pathway to facilitate an outcome to those conflicts that not only get you what you need but get everyone else what they need, too.

To do this, you have to have a certain amount of hope. Built into our new operating system is the idea of hope, and that springs out of rest. More and more humans are understanding that rest, the resting of the mind, is one of the most rejuvenating acts you can do. It’s one of the greatest acts of self-love that you can do for yourself. Find a way to focus the mind on something that’s soothing, that’s calms the energy waves. That kind of rest we so often overlook.

In this year that is coming ahead, speaking of futures, we can see some conditional trends that you might be aware of as you move through the next one-year cycle. If you’re not ready in the spring to have a channel to channel your creativity through, it’s going to get mucked up. It can risk getting backed up, so that creative energy becomes the conflict itself. Because creative energy is one thing, and your choice to consciously pick up your power and interact with that creative energy and use it to intend is the more important part of it. People who are willing to engage like that are more apt to tap into creativity when it’s not there than somebody who isn’t going to engage but has all the creative energy ideas in the world.

This is the talent to be open, always be discovering even if you don’t know what you’re looking for. Cultivating that openness, that positive message, that you tell yourself, “Not only is there a way, and a will, but there are so many more resources than you’ll ever know.” Look at Barbara, saying in 1987 that if you had told her she would be here, she wouldn’t have been able to imagine all the resources she would need to get here. She didn’t have to. She just had to say, “One step at a time.”

In this springtime of creativity, more than ever you’re going to need to be the scientist of your own life, the one who’s willing to experiment with this new operating system. Again, there might not be a clear answer right away on what direction you’re supposed to go or what you’re supposed to do. But take the time right now, in the beginning, to feel that intention.

We [The Party] want to intend things, too, for our work, through Barbara and through you. We feel that anyone here who is listening avidly and excited about getting control of your own energy, we hope we can inspire you to take those steps of self-care and self-love. This work is the work of your life. When you work it on the microscopic level of what you’re thinking, how you’re processing emotion, what Intuition is saying to you, getting to know those three human dimensions very intimately is a lifelong pursuit of being human.

This body of work, Conflict REVOLUTION®, is a lifelong system where you’re constantly monitoring what you’re thinking, how you’re processing your feeling, what Intuition is telling you to do. Are you doing it? Are you taking care of yourself? Are you making decisions that give you hope? If you’re not, then your intention can be that you will be revealed to yourself if you watch.

If you’re ever in doubt—“Why am I stuck? Why is this going on? Why am I just surviving?”—you have at any moment the opportunity to turn and observe yourself with the intention that you’ll find the answer and then set about to watch yourself. It’s challenging right now for humanity because there are so many forces in the world that are about taking the resources for the good of the few at the expense of the many. It is a system that is falling now, because it can’t sustain. It is not a sustainable form of societal structure when so many of the resources are held by so few.

This is in the process of tipping over. How that looks to any person is as unique as who that person is who is going through it. Some people will be refugees, some will be poor, some will be rich. Some people will be less rich, some people will be richer. You can’t even look at a worldwide condition so much as looking at your individual self in it, in this change as you’re here as the system goes through this change. How will it look?

We can say quite definitively that the more that you nurture not only your own self-care and your own magical abilities to have an influence on your own energy—and we say “magical” sort of ironically, not really. Sometimes it seems magical when you set an intention and honor yourself and feel and breathe and look in the mirror of that conflict and bring it home and see where you’re not treating yourself well, where you’re not respecting yourself, then changing those things. It does seem sometimes like magic, how things change around you. It’s always a beautiful tribute when we see someone doing this and then facilitating this change as if by magic. The person who was so mad at you suddenly calls up and apologizes, or the triggers that you had with someone are gone, however you heal them without going straight at them.

This kind of interaction on the part of human beings adds up in every facet of society. It’s going to influence politics, science, food systems because it’s only people who are the projectors and perceivers of the universe. When they change to become compassion flowing through the physical body, it’s inevitable.

That’s why we say in the spring, not only be prepared to have some stuff to channel your energy into, but see in the world that, despite some of the difficulties and the hard times, there will be a new growth, a new surge of hope that’s coming, not from a political leader, not because science is telling you, but driven from within you to be one of those mothers and fathers who go out into the street and say, “No more war! War is an obsolete form of conflict resolution. It doesn’t work. We’re going to do a new way. We’re going to start with ourselves, and you don’t even have to participate, because we’re going to take over ourselves.”

And then work it. Live it. Breathe it. Become it. Study how big you really are. Study all the other parts of your operating system that are non-physical. See how they relate to other lives you’ve lived, other lives other people have lived. Get to know yourself in that way.

We’re going to be here through the year with an opportunity to listen, to communicate, to answer questions, just making ourselves available.

Before we open for questions and conversations, we want to say that we see a lot of individual human beings excelling this year. Part of that excelling means that people find the courage to change themselves. It isn’t easy. It’s been a whole lot easier in many ways for humans to continue to sit back and point fingers at each other, blaming the other, and then taking action to punish the other. How we break out of this pattern on this planet can only begin on the individual level.

So yes, you want people to stop killing each other. Yes, you want the economy to be moving from one that relies on selling bullets and arms and bombs and killing people to being sustainable and regenerative. How does that work? You don’t know. Maybe you can’t today say, “This is how there’s going to be peace in the Middle East. This is how there will be a reduction of arms.” You don’t know. But that doesn’t matter. When you work on your part of that energy and treat yourself like a sovereign nation, how are you going to be a member nation of the world? Will you always be bombing your neighbors? Will you have sustainable government for yourself, one that will help you to thrive? This is all within your reach, no matter what the physical circumstances are.

We will confirm and acknowledge that the more pain you’re in, the more danger you’re in, the fewer resources that you have to survive, say water or food—those are special kinds of circumstances. But for the most part, in going about your everyday life, you have ample opportunity to build this new operating system from the ground up.

And we don’t want you to miss the miracles. We don’t want you to only focus on what isn’t there, but instead part of the hope that builds on the hope is when you do that hard work. It’s when you’re in your bedroom by yourself and you’re thinking about the conflict you had with that person and you’re breathing emotion and you’re concentrating on the metaphor. “What’s the metaphor for me?” And then you start exploring and using that incredible intellect to discover, “What mirror is this for me? Where is it?” And then finding it and doing whatever it takes, whatever Intuition tells you when you get there to do about that particular one, and there you are, you take that breath, and you react differently.

And then when you return, up to the Lens, into the arena, pay attention to how that shifts. We want to encourage everyone who is listening to let this process this year, 2017 Reboot, let people be where they’re naturally going to be with you. We feel like as you learn to honor yourself more, you make decisions more for you and less for other people. When you do that, you find out that some people you thought were close to you are, but not quite like you thought, so you can let them drift a little bit farther on the circle of love. And we always advise people, if you’re having conflict with someone, push them a few circles back on your circle of friends so they’re not quite so close to you. Give it some perspective. Do your process, look at the archetype, look at the metaphor, and see what you can experiment with in your own space.

It doesn’t mean you’re pushing them away because they’re energy vampires or they’re draining you. It means you’ve got work to do and you’re going to do it there and you need some space. As long as you’re not holding them responsible for those feelings, like Barbara read from Diaries, where you want to point the finger at somebody else and say, “You’re the reason I’m conflicted.” But it just isn’t so. They’re a trigger, bringing your awareness to a conflict that exists within you already. But that’s a gift, because now, in this new positive, powerful way, conflicts aren’t a mistake, they’re not a bad thing, they’re nothing to be ashamed of, they’re a regular part of living, and now you have a way to turn them into great, constructive, creative solutions where everybody gets to benefit.

This is an exciting time to be around and to be alive. Certainly all of the work we have done here through Barbara for these past 30 years, using her voice, her hands, her knowledge of publishing books to create a body of work we feel is so vitally important to humanity right now. And more than ever, we see that the time has come to step out and articulate what we know and what we want and inspire people to become the change in that way. So to all of you, we are eternally grateful for your participation and for the loving energy that you bring. We hope that more people can benefit from this gift that we want to give you in 2017.

With that, are there questions or conversations?

Q: I’d like a little clarification. We talk about prayer, about praying for other people. I have a feeling that when we pray for other people, there’s a power in that and that we can change the world and our lives and other people’s lives. Also, I think about what lies in the past, and something’s really bugging me. I want to hope something happens to stop people from doing the bad things and change what they’re doing and you said you can’t change what someone else is doing with your thoughts. Can you talk about the difference between prayer compared to I guess a negative hope for someone’s future compared to a positive one, how we affect other people with our thoughts?

A: The idea of praying for someone is rarely detrimental. If you are praying for someone to do the greatest good for the whole situation, that’s different than praying that the Holocaust won’t happen. We’re not saying that one is better or worse than the other, because praying that the Holocaust doesn’t happen is sort of like praying that Donald Trump doesn’t start World War III. It’s not necessarily a negative thing. You don’t want to wish anyone harm or pray for anything personally bad to come to someone, that someone kills someone else, whatever scenario. But to hold somebody in a prayer that they achieve the greatest good for them and for all is always a good thing.

We feel the important addition to that is that work that is done on self. It’s almost like we talk about this work that we teach augments everything else. It’s not that we want you to quit practicing medicine. It’s that by studying this [yourself], you have a different relationship to medicine. By doing this in your work, you have a different relationship to your prayers and the power of that prayer. A lot of times it’s more powerful, because the truth is—now we’re going to get kind of esoteric and step away from the practical world—that there was purpose behind what happened with Einstein and Hitler. There is purpose for what Donald Trump is doing. There’s a purpose for this fear that’s been blanketed because it’s in the process of then turning into hope.

Do you want to wish that he doesn’t do those things? It’s a little specific to be you wanting what’s best for the good of the whole. That brings in the humility that you don’t understand the importance of someone’s karmic energy or interaction in their life. You don’t want people to suffer, but on the other hand, souls choose to come into the world so that evolutionarily they will be given a platform to evolve. If their evolution means some kind of awakening process that might seem like a struggle to you, your own struggle, who are you to take it away from them? There are a lot of different things to look at that way when it comes to the power of prayer. Prayer is an art.

You can make every day a waking, walking prayer in that you program yourself to always just be intending the greatest good for all, no matter what the situation is. Of course that’s harder to do when it’s someone you perceive has wronged you, but it’s what will give you the strength and character to keep the focus of your energy work on yourself, and from there is where all else springs.

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