Interview With Robin Cordova
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It is Sunday, January 22nd, 2017. This is Barbara With and the Party of 12. Happy New Year! Happy 2017! This is the beginning of a “1” year, if you’re into numerology. I’m no numerologist, but I can add. I don’t know if that makes me a numerologist, but it does add up to “one.” Everything I found on the Internet reaffirmed my feeling that this is a brand-new year like we’ve never had before.
Not only is it an opportunity to start over and make some great strides in accomplishing the life that you want to live, but it is, for me personally, the 30th anniversary of me channeling. I officially began to channel in 1987. I had gone to see the beloved Eunice McCoy in Minneapolis for many years and studied under her. She said she was just a big antenna and she was picking up my higher energy and somehow translating it down into what my little human mind could comprehend. So there were no dead people, no angels, no Einstein.
When I started to spontaneously channel in 1987, I knew what it was, but honestly, if you had told me then where that road would take me, I not only probably wouldn’t believe you. But if I had said that was what would happen, people would have called for psychiatric help or some kind of psychological assistance. It would have been too bizarre.
But here we are! It’s 2017, and the most definitive articulation yet of the work that we’ve done with Einstein, Einstein et al.: Manifestation, Conflict REVOLUTION® and the New Operating System, is my 30-year anniversary articulation of where that road took me. It’s phenomenal—and personally humbling.
In honor of this, I am starting a year-long, once-a-month free telechannel of this nature. I’m calling it the 2017 Reboot Camp. We’ll begin at the beginning and fully intend to install this new operating system into our own energy. I am making this work available, partly, of course, for the selfish reason that I love having a support group of my own, but for people who want to learn how to do this—how to not just do good work in the world and align to compassion and be better people and help the species evolve, but to live lives that are worth living that we make as big as we can.
In 1987, if you had asked me to dream as big as this, that I would be putting out a book with the Party of 12 and Albert Einstein that explains how matter is manifest on every level, the unified field theory, tested by people all over the world—that’s a pretty big dream. I don’t know if I could have. Good thing I didn’t have to!
This year, with this 12-part series, we’re going to support each other in our intention. You get to set your intention, so get your notebooks right now. We’ll put them down and we’ll talk about different aspects of bringing these intentions into fruition, into the physical world and changing this operating system in the next 12 [months].
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I want to preface this by saying that this operating system that we’re talking about transforming is one that at its root deals with conflicts in a regenerative, creative, compassionate way. So many of us have never been taught about conflict. We still aren’t. Even the best kinds of peacemaking don’t explain why there are always conflicts. My sister said to me the other day, “Didn’t we fight for women’s rights? Didn’t we do this once 30-some years ago?”
Conflict is part of life, and this Einsteinian Conflict REVOLUTION® process that we’ve been working on for 30 years is a new operating system that takes conflict and uses it to not only help promote us as a species, but to get to the outcome for the greatest good of all: making decisions for the greatest good of all.
In a practical sense, that can elude us sometimes. I’ll admit it. I get scared and freaked out. Right now the whole world is terrified. The trigger of Trump, as I’m calling it, has brought out not just the fear, but people projecting the very worst possible futures. It’s very real. Here with the Party, there’s a reason why (not that it was my idea) that we’re working with Einstein and Hitler and Freud—people—the thoughts, feelings, senses, memories, and holograms of people who’ve had these experiences on the earth plane can give and have given us a greater perspective. Who have given us this greater perspective.
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So let’s invite the participation of the willing, people who want to set the intention to become that change, to become compassion, and to experiment with us. This process, this operating system doesn’t take away anything else you’re doing. Whether it’s chemo, Judaism, psychotherapy, or math, it doesn’t take away from it, augments it. It allows you to get deeper into that place where you are.
This Reboot Camp will also feature people who not only understand this Einsteinian perspective, but who have taken it somewhere else to manifest in a very specific way of meeting people where they are. Today’s guest on the show and I have had a long conversation about how to meet people where they are, especially with this Einsteinian information. It’s not an easy read. The general population that wants to read about fashion and politics may not want to read about the root level of matter and our relationship to it. How do we take those ideas and articulate them, like a giant antenna, to these people?
My guest today, Robin Cordova, is not only a very, very good friend of mine, but a certified Conflict REVOLUTION® trainer, someone who speaks this language, has studied it and knows it. I always value her ability to help me. It’s kind of like learning French when no one else speaks French. You find someone who speaks French, and you feel like you can understand yourself and French better. She also is a certified coach. She has started what she calls the I Thrive Revolution. “I Thrive.” It’s about helping women go from just surviving to thriving in their lives, which parallels the new operating system and Conflict REVOLUTION® and Einsteinian thought.
We’ll talk today about some practical applications of what she works with—Positive Psychology—and how that overlaps with Conflict REVOLUTION®. I’m hoping that we can take this trigger of Trump and have a conversation about it. I’ve got my own triggers that are unique to me within that; we’ll see how we can apply Positive Psychology, how it all fits in together.
Thank you all for joining us here today in the conference calling room. Please welcome my friend Robin Cordova.
Robin: Good morning, Barbara. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for having me.
Barbara: I’m glad you agreed to be here. I’ve been looking forward to this conversation for a while, because you and I often talk about political things as well, we’re not just spiritual gab buddies, but we’ve been going through this Trump thing as well. In fact, you just went on the Women’s March.
Robin: Yes, yesterday. It was beautiful, peaceful, filled with men, women, families, very representative of cultures, class cultures.
Barbara: And this left you feeling hope?
Robin: It did. We had 130,000 people in Seattle in a peaceful march. There was not a single incident.
Barbara: And that was replicated around the world. To me, it brings to mind way back when I was working with Teresa and Lily in the original Psychic Sorority, years and years ago, there was a channeling called World Peace in a Day. They said that when the mothers and the fathers go out in the streets and say, “No more war, war is an obsolete form of conflict resolution,” this is that. These are the predictions that were made all those years ago about when people would stand up like this. Do you march much?
Robin: No. This is the first march I have been on. I think that it shows a hopeful future and possibly, along how you introduced the call, maybe this is a new type of year. We really are possibly in a new place, and that brings us hope, too.
Barbara: And hope is really important.
Robin: And I’m reminded of something Einstein said on a channel back in 2012. “We are creating new moments and not casting shadows of old moments.” I try to remind myself of that so that we can look at things in a new way and not just assume that it will continue to repeat from the past.
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Barbara: And that was my intention with this meeting today: to talk about the trigger of Trump. Up until yesterday, when hundreds of thousands, half a million, a million people, went out into the streets and said, “No more!” there was a lot of fear, a lot of projection about the most horrible things ever happening because of Trump. That’s a real thing. I don’t have a judgment about it either way, but clearly people have been in their fear and reacting and surviving rather than feeling like they’re thriving. From what you’ve told me when we talked before the broadcast, it changed, coming together with people in that way. It shifted out of fear into hope, into “Now let’s find some creative solutions.”
Robin: Correct. And I can go into that today, some of the hope theory from Positive Psychology can be a very powerful message. We can circle back to that after we do an introduction into what Positive Psychology is. People haven’t heard of it or they might think it’s just a “Happyology” and you’re just telling people to put a smile on their face no matter what they’re going through, and that couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s good to dismantle some of the misbelief of what Positive Psychology is and where it came from and why I feel it’s very important to me.
Barbara: Please do! I’m curious to know all those things. Share with us what it is.
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Robin: Positive Psychology was coined primarily by one person, but also co-founded. Martin Seligman was the president of the Psychological Foundation [American Psychological Association] right around the turn of the century, about 17 years ago [1998. He is Zellerbach Family Professor of Psychology in the University of Pennsylvania’s Department of Psychology]. He stood in front of the scientific community, researchers within psychology, and he said, “We have failed the everyday human. We have based our entire research model, our entire therapy model, on the disease model. That really only helps around 15% of the population, and the rest we have left behind.” He co-founded it with another researcher and psychology professor, Chris Peterson, who has passed on, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a guest with the Party on the non-physical side.
Together they put out a challenge, set an intention: “We would like to see 51% of the population flourishing by 2051. To do that, we want to research what is right with people. What makes life worth living?” That’s what Chris Peterson said. That is the study of optimal human functioning. “Why are we here? What makes life worth living? We haven’t studied these things. We haven’t helped people become resilient to everyday challenges—health setbacks, loss of loved ones, loss of jobs, learning how to make difficult transitions—everyday things, not things that are in the disease model.”
So they created what they call the wellness model. Chris Peterson would say it’s “helping people go north of neutral.” The traditional psychology was looking at an arrow to the west of that. That was, we have symptoms, we have illnesses, we have death.
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Positive Psychology says, “Let’s study the right side. Let’s look at first of all self-awareness.” When I think of Conflict REVOLUTION®, I can align that with the Observer. The first step is to become the Observer, to become self-aware. The next step is education. We can look at that with Conflict REVOLUTION® where we say, “Let’s look at the mirror. Let’s become aware. Let’s educate ourselves on what’s the beyond ourself. If we’re only 8% within the lens, we need to educate ourselves on the Source, the map, the electromagnetic grid. There are so many things we can educate ourselves for.” The third step is growth. Martin Seligman put that out and he got a lot of funding, a lot of researchers stepped up. Now we’re about 17 years in, and just in my Thrive course I’ve covered the work of 11 or 12 researchers, and there are many more, who have said, “What if we send positive emotion?” I thought I’d touch on that.
Barbara: Yes, please.
Robin: Another one said, “What if we study hope? What does that mean?” Martin Seligman himself did a 20-year study on optimism, what makes people optimistic? Why do we want be? He teamed with Chris Peterson and they did a three-year study, I think they had a million dollars in funding, and they studied character strength. What happens is, we focus on what’s right with people. It was a beautiful outcome. The idea is not to negate negative emotions. There’s nothing in Positive Psychology that says to repress emotions or we only want positive emotions.
But will segue into Barbara Fredrickson’s work on positivity. She’s a scientific researcher, and she took several thousand people and studied positive emotions. She said, “We know that if we’re sad, it’s because we’re mourning something, and if we’re angry, it’s because we feel our rights have been violated in some way. But nobody has studied what the benefits are when we feel joy, love, awe, excitement, curiosity, when we’re learning something.”
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After quite a few years of study, she teamed up with a mathematician and they plotted it. They took all her data and plotted it mathematically and found what they called the “butterfly effect”: if we are able to consciously create in our environment a certain amount of positive emotion, then we start to flourish. They found that mathematically that ratio is about 3:1. So if you take a month of your life and say, “How much of my time do I feel that I was in positive emotional states?” and she describes about 10 of them, and “How much am I in a negative emotional state?” If I am able to shift that consciously, I start to create what she calls a broaden-and-build theory. That means that if we’re able to stay in positive emotion three times to one negative, we open up our world to more options. We start to see solutions instead of problems. We start to get ideas. I equate it to standing at the top of the Eiffel Tower, where you can see so much further than if you’re in the basement.
Her work does not say that the basement isn’t valuable, or that we shouldn’t go to the basement. That’s why I don’t feel like it can’t marry to Conflict REVOLUTION. But what it does say is that we can become aware and consciously interject within our life things that bring us joy.
For me, I love to dance. So I make sure to dance every day for an hour. That I already know will interject some extra positivity in my life. Negative emotions can narrow our focus, and sometimes we need that. Sometimes we need those negative emotions, narrow in focus. Other times we want to broaden and build. So we think about what we do to come up with new solutions. If we consciously infuse our lives with more positive emotion, then we’re going to elevate to a state where we’re at the top of the building and we can see far. Now we are all of the sudden inspired with new ideas and new solutions. She calls that the broaden-and-build theory.
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Another thing that Positive Psychology has done is, one of the things that Einstein has always said is that our greatest challenge is in our negative intellect. When we get negative emotions—our fear, anger, sadness—we immediately start to marry those to the negative stories. He’s always said that our greatest challenge is unwinding those stories and aligning ourselves to super-conscious thinking. And I think that’s a beautiful thing. To me, in and of itself, that fits into the Positive Psychology category, because no matter what emotion is coming through us, if we ground into the Source and we connect with the wave as it’s coming through the lens, and then we repeat a mantra of positive thinking and we marry that to whatever emotion we’re feeling, then that is a perfect example of a Positive Psychology intervention, in my opinion.
Barbara: In Conflict REVOLUTION®, what you just described is the basis of our revolutionary new relationship to Emotion, just to offset it. There isn’t any actual Emotion that is negative or positive. The degenerative effect comes when you get to the Intellect and when the Intellect creates the negative story that then that fear or anger, formally known as a negative emotion, hits that story. So like you just described, when you let that anger come through but marry it with a regenerative, positive story, you still, I find, have the power of that emotion, whether it’s formally good or bad. There’s just a little bit of fine-tuning in the system, a little more complex place in the system, but that’s essentially what Positive Psychology does, change the story. Right?
Robin: Exactly. There’s two researchers that I could talk about. Maybe I should start with hope theory. It truly is important to have hope. Nobody has studied hope too much, but when we slide into a hopeless state, they have found that the first stage is rage, anger, or frustration. When people are feeling hopeless, which many are right now, when they look at Trump and the situation going on, it’s easy to fall into that feeling of hopelessness, and the first stage of hopelessness is rage, anger, and frustration.
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Then, if they’re not sure what to do or that they understand what’s next, they slide into despair. When you get to a stage of despair, you start to make smaller investments. You start to shut down. It’s like starting into the giving-up phase. You become immobilized and resigned to complete inaction, to passivity. You start to go inward in your expression. The fourth stage is apathy, which is just complete defeat, when you no longer believe that the goal you want is attainable, and you often give up the big dream and you start to just shoot for little things. That’s what they describe as the slide into hopelessness.
When they pulled it apart and researched it—What is hope? What makes people hopeful? Then they created a map for how you build hope in your own life. The very first step is to set goals. So hopeful people have goals. As soon as we say, “Here’s what we’re headed for,” and we can start to see—whether we end up there or not doesn’t matter as much as setting an intention. Like you said, let’s start the year by setting an intention. We can call that an intention or a goal of some sort. But just having that set all of the sudden starts to build hope.
The other two components are “way power” and willpower. Way power tells us we have multiple ways to get to that goal. Willpower is the motivation to get there. If we’re feeling hopeless, then we have a structure where we can say, “I’ll start by setting goals.” They say hopeful people will set goals across many areas in their lives. They’ll have health, they’ll have relationships. That comes back to, what makes life worth living? If we’re just working all the time and we have no friendships, that’s not a very fulfilling life. Or if we have a relationship that’s not meaningful work. Hopeful people will set goals or intentions across multiple areas of their lives and they’ll create multiple pathways to get there, not necessarily getting stuck on one or another.
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And then by generating strength and positive emotion, we can boost our willpower, our excitement, our motivation, our ability to self-regulate. That’s another key thing that several researchers have found, that when we allow ourselves to feel every emotion, we become able to master this character strength that Mark Seligman and Chris Peterson defined as “self-regulation”: being able to control our impulses, to maintain the focus, the vitality to head toward those goals. As you introduced at the beginning when we were talking in our previous conversation, now that the march is done, now what? How do we maintain hope?
I think the combination of Positive Psychology with Conflict REVOLUTION® is beautiful. We can take what we’ve learned and say, “How do we maintain this hope?” We do that through setting our intentions, setting goals, feeling our emotions, being aware of our positive-to-negative ratio.
The other thing we found is about taking our language seriously. This goes back to what you mentioned, marrying those stories to the negative Intellect stories. What Positive Psychology has found that the more general the negative statements we give to ourselves—this goes back to self-care/self-love piece—the higher the degree of negative emotion we’re creating.
For example, if we say, “I am a failure. I’m good at nothing. I’m worthless. I’m unworthy,” that’s a very broad statement sweeping across us. The degree of negative emotion being experienced by that personal attack is high. Positive Psychology has taught us to, first of all, step into that Observer, that self-awareness, and listen to ourselves. If we’re saying, “I’m a failure,” then we’re creating—it’s a self-attack, or in Conflict REVOLUTION® terms, as that wave comes back around, through the North Pole, and goes into the center of the Earth, back to the Source and back into the Lens, that will come up as a lot of pain.
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Barbara: Yes, an abscess, as we call it. It becomes abscessed. Who knows why it’s there or when it’s there, it’s just built up. It doesn’t ever really get moving along the flow of things.
I want to jump in and talk about hope. Listening to you talk about that aspect was very affirming to me as someone—OK, let’s go back to the trigger of Trump. For the past five or six years I’ve been deeply engaged in my state government, and marches and walks and testimony and all sorts of things. I’ve been engaged and involved. There came a point where everybody went home and the government of Wisconsin—which is that our governor and the two houses and the courts are all Republican and they’re passing things that are really detrimental to us, like we’re seeing Trump is about to do.
There came a point where all those stages of hopelessness that you just described, oh, my gosh, that was me! Until I got to a point after about three years of giving it my all, where I was hopeless. I went through that whole thing and I got to apathy. But what happened was, luckily for me, that’s when Conflict REVOLUTION® kicked in. “OK, so you’ve got nothing. You’ve lost everything. The mining company has the bill. The government is corrupt. They’re going to steal our water.” Kind of like what I see people doing with Trump now.
But now that I can look back, I see that the truth was that when I stepped back to first of all not feel like I have to save the entire world, that this is a little more organic movement even though politics is rough and you don’t want your water poisoned, you still need to take care of yourself. You still need to thrive. You still need to have hope. How do you do that in the face of what I was faced with? I can tell you that what I did Conflict REVOLUTION®. It pulled me farther away from the struggle of what I was in and more into the experimental esoteric, “What is the conflict of the mining thing? Let me take that in and find the metaphor in me. Let me look at it metaphorically like an archetype. What part of my energy that I’m observing every day—” And I know what I’m looking for. It isn’t just watching yourself be crazy, you know what you’re looking for. You’re looking for those bad thoughts. In Positive Psychology, it would be the observation you’re talking about, where you’re telling yourself you’re a failure over and over and having the willpower to change it to something more regenerative, something that’ll going to give you hope, something that will find a solution.
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You and I have talked about meeting people where they are, which is part of why I wanted to do this series and have other people come and show me these different sides. This movement of meeting people where they are is just as important as knowing and understanding the process. It’s that bridge like you talk about, the bridge to people who are still struggling. And let’s bring this back around to another thing, where I had my own Rev, the trigger of Trump. I had my own Rev and it wasn’t about Trump. Having lived with Scott Walker and been through the cycle for five years, I’m familiar with what’s going on conditionally like that.
But it was the other side, where I was having a great conflict with people who supported President Obama and would never acknowledge that he had actually facilitated some things that they really hate about Trump. He actually did those things. He bombed more people. He deported more people. But to me the point was, I couldn’t for the life of me find any of my friends who could sit down and have this conversation about why this is, not even adversarially. It wasn’t like, “How come you can’t—?” It was like, “I don’t get it. How do you feel about the fact that he has done all these things that when you say Trump does them, they make you scared to death?” I haven’t been able to get an answer. People either stomp out or say that I’m trashing Obama or get defensive or change the subject. The Rev for me was that archetypical metaphor of, “What do you do with people when they’re not ready to hear the truth?” OK, so with me.
That application of Positive Psychology or Conflict REVOLUTION® on that Rev, unique to me, really had nothing to do with politics. It had a lot more to do with this work. This work, especially this Einsteinian work that all of us have been engaged in or are beginning to get intrigued by. It’s pretty ahead of its time. There are people, as you and I talked about, who aren’t there. They don’t see it. I know that. It has nothing to do with if anybody’s more involved or better. This Einsteinian work is very deeply rooted in ideology, intellect, and it’s sometimes hard to find people who speak that language. I’m appreciative of everyone who does, but in the long run, going back to my hope story, when I shifted that—now I’m not saying that this is my responsibility, I’m just reporting this—the mining company pulled out and went away. And even though we’ve had the four sides of our government dominated by corporate Republicans who are passing the bills that are for the good of the few at the expense of the many, we still protected the lake. We did it. We succeeded.
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I’m bringing that back to the march. It brings that hope that we don’t have to sit here in the trigger of Trump and project because we’re down at the end of hopelessness and now we’re projecting the most dismal futures, as you were talking about. Your vision gets really tiny. There are fewer and fewer resources. We don’t know what will happen in this year when we engage like we going to, like we are. We’re taking responsibility now for our own energy like we’ve never done before. We don’t know the power we have. We underestimate ourselves, right?
Robin: Right. And you bring up a good point—and part of the reason I named my business “I” Thrive Revolution is because it goes along with that theory that the most important thing is that we come back to ourselves, and that has to be our priority. That relationship is about our own self-care, self-love, self-compassion. I myself learned through some Revs that I did this fall—I finally understood the clear difference between self-care and self-compassion. They’re entirely different.
Barbara: How so?
Robin: Self-care is compassion that we take, we are caring for our bodies, we are eating good food, we are meditating, we are dancing, we are skiing—I know you love to ski, Barbara. These are self-care things, and they’re very, very important, which I’ve aligned more with the Father energy.
What I really had to learn this fall through my own Rev that I had to do was embracing and honoring the Mother energy, which is self-compassion. That part is very quiet. It’s not action-oriented. It’s just sitting down and treating yourself like you would as a kind person. Treating yourself like you think of yourself. The moment that you pause and say, “I am so sorry you’re going through this right now.” Just like you would a friend. How often do you say, “Oh, my gosh, I’m so sorry this has brought you so much sadness.”
Barbara: With your friend, hopefully you don’t say, “What the hell is wrong with you? What’s wrong with you that you have cancer?”
Robin: The mother energy. Or “What did you do wrong? Whip yourself into shape.” That’s not self-compassion. With self-compassion, you put your hand on your heart, “I’m so sorry.” I learned that from a Positive Psychology researcher by the name of Kristin Neff at the University of Austin. She teaches a lot on self-compassion. That was beautiful, too.
With all of these Positive Psychology interventions, it’s a lot like Conflict REVOLUTION® in the sense of, when you get triggered, you know it’s time to rest. You know what to do. You have a process. To me it’s a Positive Psychology intervention, probably the most powerful one.
The same thing with hope. If we feel hopeless, we get out our sheet and we say, “OK, I know how to build hope. I follow this step, this step, and this step, and I’m going to start to feel more hopeful.” If I am finding that I’m bumping into obstacles, because that’s one thing about the intervention, I’m just describing the theory, but there’s a whole set of, “Here’s what we do when we’re feeling hopeless. Here’s what we do if we’re lacking in “way” power, we don’t see the pathway to get there.” I know you had to run into that so many times. “What do you do when you hit 10 obstacles?”
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Barbara: And what you’re talking about here reminds me and affirms for me that when I was going through some really deep mental health issues, 2008, 2009, 2010, every day I had to make a list of things I was going to accomplish, but they were things like, “Brush your teeth.” Three things that I could so easily do in five minutes. But I did it so that I could do it and then say I did it. I built on that.
Robin: Right! That’s a fabulous example.
Barbara: I confirmed that process you’re talking about.
Robin: And then you could feel hope. That’s so important.
Barbara: And as I succeeded, I could add more, so my competency could increase as well. “Now I can do more than just brush my teeth and go to the Post Office.”
Robin: And I think that’s a perfect example of broaden-and-build, too. You’re catching yourself. You’re building hope. You’re accomplishing things. You’re celebrating, and that brings in self-compassion. One of the things Barbara Fredrickson has said is, “We think that these fleeting moments of positivity are meaningless, but it’s quite the contrary.” It’s almost like putting a deposit in the bank. It can become fun. “Oh, my gosh, did I get some positivity in my bank today?” Making sure you squeeze it in because you’re making deposits in your bank so that when you do hit an obstacle or you do hit an adversity, it helps you become resilient because you’ve banked some positivity.
Barbara: With Conflict REVOLUTION®, we train ourselves to the best of our ability to, when in doubt, process that deep emotion with breathing. In present moment, I’ve learned through the years and I’m sure you have, too, that when you really have your back up against the wall, some stopped, intentional, focused breathing and calming everything down to allow that last tail of hopelessness to stop and you can begin to refresh and find those creative solutions, or ask for them intuitively.
Robin: Exactly. And she has hit some controversy, like all researchers do, and I admire and honor you so much in your bravery to do this work—
Barbara: Oh, thank you!
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Robin: —that’s possibly a hundred years ahead of its time and the controversy that you’ve had to hit. Barbara Fredrickson had it in a tiny way when she was doing this research. She was giving a talk right when 9/11 happened, and she couldn’t get home to her family because the planes had shut down, so she ended up taking a train for a couple of days to get home. I think she was in Chicago and lives on the East Coast or something like that. It gave her the opportunity to observe something that was a very sad time. She had been given some flak of, “We can’t just do positive emotion.” But what she found is that it didn’t make you insensitive to say to yourself, “It’s important that I interject positivity in my life.” It does not make you insensitive to 9/11. She found that people who could also find gratitude and still put a smile on their faces were able to handle the deep emotion as well.
Barbara: I can attest something—maybe as disastrous to 9/11, the Trump election—that when I tried to be positive and do this, I was accused of being thoughtless and mean and rude and uncaring. It was very interesting. That was another interesting part about this trigger of Trump. And those were people who know me.
I want to wrap up this part of our conversation. We could go on and on. The setting of our intention today that we’ll do, I’d like to give everybody about five minutes. Is there anything you want to add to the idea that we can take this year and set our intentions? What does that mean? What might you be doing?
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Robin: I did write that out for myself. I love doing that exercise. For me, it’s making sure that I set goals, set intentions across more than just one area of my life. For me personally it will include wonderful relationships and my work area, my passion area, my own ability to stay dedicated to Conflict REVOLUTION®, it will include a broad range. It will also include making sure that, “This is how I am going to feel, this is what I’m going to see, what things are going to smell like and look like,” to embrace a lot of the senses.
Barbara: I feel that way, too, that I want to intend that this is this really kick-ass life to live. Being there with it. I want to also—I really have a thing for this book. I’ve been wanting to get this to the scientists but have been triggered by that “Who do I think I am?” thing. I really want to intend that [to get Einstein, et al. to the scientists]. But like you say, I want to intend a life that’s relaxed and happy and feel like I’m doing all that I can and using my power, feeling like I’m really doing the best I can. So many times we are but we don’t feel like we are. We’re doing so much. I’m guilty of doing so much, but “I haven’t done enough.” Positive!
Robin: We are. And every time I talk about Positive Psychology, I tell who come to my workshops, “I need this work. That’s my own selfish reason [to do it.] My life needed these tools.”
Barbara: Yes, exactly.
Before we take the five minutes, this is from Diaries of a Psychic Sorority, and it sums up the whole mission that Einstein has shared with us, through us. This was from January 25, 1994. It was the second group that we ever did in the big groups that we were doing back then, Kim and Theresa and I. It was called “Conflict Resolution.” These were the paragraphs that changed my life, when they said:
You often come in contact with people who you think cause you conflict. This seems unavoidable. Yet you are the source of that conflict. You can look around at everyone else and lay claim to their actions and how they are causing the conflict in your life, but every conflict you’re involved with is within your own self. The source is within your own self. If you begin to look at life that way, you begin to see where your power actually lies to be able to resolve these conflicts. If you do not believe this is the basis of the evolutionary process, you only have to look at how much conflict is in your world, not just in your own personal lives, but the bigger world, the global community, the country, the state, the cities, the block, your home, and your own minds. Constantly dealing with conflicts is the road to evolutionary change. It may seem futile or counterproductive, but it’s not. It’s through the resolution of conflict that the earth plane will resolve.
Barbara: This goes back to, we’re putting in a new operating system that will process the inevitable conflict of life, because it is inevitable, and process it in this positive, regenerative way. You get to build your own system based on your life, your detail, custom-made just for you. That’s the exciting creative part right there.
When we come back, we will open up to Einstein and the Party to talk and then we will have time for questions and conversation.
Thank you so much, Robin! When I send the link out, I’ll send the information of where people can get hold of you and see more about what you’re doing.
Robin: OK. Thank you so much.
Robin Cordova
I Thrive Revolution
Bainbridge Island, WA
512-517-3884
https://ithriverevolution.com/
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It is January 22nd, 2017. I am here in Lake Superior. The rest of you are all over. I can’t say I know exactly where you’re all from. I want us to begin by closing our eyes and imagining this view from outer space looking down at the earth so that we’re all starting on the same perspective, that we’re out on a halo that goes around the earth, sitting there with our legs hanging over the side, looking at this beautiful planet.
As we look, think about the history of humanity. Sometimes when we get so focused on one time period or moment, we feel trapped. Our perspective is narrowed down into a tiny little funnel, much like Robin talked about, where suddenly you don’t have enough resources and enough way.
We will command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.
by Nazo-The-Unsolvable
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We are so honored to have use of this space, if only for just a little while, to greet you in this most magnificent “1” year that is stretched out ahead of you like a carpet. We have a very exciting agenda for how we want to use our energy to help you use your energy.
The beginning opening invitation goes out to you now to sit in your physical body, listen to the sound of our voice as we’re talking, and become aware and be an observer of all of the cells within your body, within your organs, your muscles, in all of the biological systems that are at this very moment working together to create the portal that you have to perceiving the planet. You are the projector of that planet as well as the perceiver of it.
More than ever, we feel the time is ripening for each individual to strive to a greater height and evolutionary place than they ever have before. Part of the way evolution works is that because the creative energy of life—the life source—has programmed in its DNA the continual desire and implementation of creation constantly creating something, constantly taking something out of nothing and making it into something. Your very nature is regenerative. Your energy is, well, you can’t screw it up. You can mess up the system so that in the lens of your physical world you’re not experiencing the great miracle that’s taking place right in front of you, but you don’t screw up the miracle. That’s unscrew-upable.
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In this year, 2017, we are going to, more than ever, be here to be of assistance, to help people take a big step into the manifestation of their lives. The beautiful part about this intention that we’re setting, about installing this operating system, is getting more and more people to observe themselves, having people wake up to ask, “What can I do? How can I stand up? How can I make a difference?”
When people are in that place, they’re willing. And when you get the participation of the willing, then you get a group of like-minded people who are operating as a sort of biological organism. When all of those people—a family, a town, a group—are operating under compassion, meaning that the most important thing is to make decisions for the good and the sustainability of the whole system, whatever that system is. Imagine working in a group of people who are all committed to that perspective. You could trust each other. You knew if someone experienced pain or anger they wouldn’t lash out, act out, bring in some drama. There is a whole new language. You could talk and work. And suddenly conflict didn’t become that thing you were afraid to have. “Oh, gosh, I’ve got a conflict!” It becomes an opportunity to take control of yourself and create a new outcome, very purposefully, very intentionally.
This also addresses the idea of the future. We want to talk about that right at the beginning of 2017. We have never been here working with Barbara to be fortune tellers. It was not our intention to tell people’s futures as the mode of communication. We have been able to, with a fair accuracy, speak about the future and possible futures and articulate what we see and have that then come into physical reality. But the truth is, there is such a question about how much even the telling of the future affects the manifestation of it. It may or may not, we don’t know.
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Instead, what we feel we do with our vision and our insight is to give you some perspective and a process that will allow you to participate in your energy in a way that you may not have thought of before, when you’re hoping that somebody’s going to tell you the future will be good. “Will I get that job, that relationship, that child?” Instead, it’s the shift of, “Here’s what I want to create and here’s how I will do it.”
Some of the tricks (and it’s not a trick, but it’s kind of tricky) is that as you are setting this intention, whatever it is, you will certainly not set an intention that you’re miserable. You’re not going to write down, “I hope I never have enough money. I hope I never find love.” You’ll write hopeful, optimistic things and conditions that you think are advancing yourself and the world around you, making you and the world a better place.
The world needs that right now, so much so that each one of you listening to this should take it seriously about your own life, your own conflicts, in your own world. As Barbara has said, sometimes it’s difficult to sort through that as a human, because there is so much going on. There’s so much energy and change and emotion and transparency and things are moving faster and faster.
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So it can be like you’re just surviving, like you’re white-knuckling it sometimes. But in this shift that we’re helping you make, the relationship of conflict comes under your control. Conflict with coworkers, with parents, any conflict—which, again, is inevitable—can become the magical pathway to facilitate an outcome to those conflicts that not only get you what you need but get everyone else what they need, too.
To do this, you have to have a certain amount of hope. Built into our new operating system is the idea of hope, and that springs out of rest. More and more humans are understanding that rest, the resting of the mind, is one of the most rejuvenating acts you can do. It’s one of the greatest acts of self-love that you can do for yourself. Find a way to focus the mind on something that’s soothing, that’s calms the energy waves. That kind of rest we so often overlook.
In this year that is coming ahead, speaking of futures, we can see some conditional trends that you might be aware of as you move through the next one-year cycle. If you’re not ready in the spring to have a channel to channel your creativity through, it’s going to get mucked up. It can risk getting backed up, so that creative energy becomes the conflict itself. Because creative energy is one thing, and your choice to consciously pick up your power and interact with that creative energy and use it to intend is the more important part of it. People who are willing to engage like that are more apt to tap into creativity when it’s not there than somebody who isn’t going to engage but has all the creative energy ideas in the world.
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This is the talent to be open, always be discovering even if you don’t know what you’re looking for. Cultivating that openness, that positive message, that you tell yourself, “Not only is there a way, and a will, but there are so many more resources than you’ll ever know.” Look at Barbara, saying in 1987 that if you had told her she would be here, she wouldn’t have been able to imagine all the resources she would need to get here. She didn’t have to. She just had to say, “One step at a time.”
In this springtime of creativity, more than ever you’re going to need to be the scientist of your own life, the one who’s willing to experiment with this new operating system. Again, there might not be a clear answer right away on what direction you’re supposed to go or what you’re supposed to do. But take the time right now, in the beginning, to feel that intention.
We [The Party] want to intend things, too, for our work, through Barbara and through you. We feel that anyone here who is listening avidly and excited about getting control of your own energy, we hope we can inspire you to take those steps of self-care and self-love. This work is the work of your life. When you work it on the microscopic level of what you’re thinking, how you’re processing emotion, what Intuition is saying to you, getting to know those three human dimensions very intimately is a lifelong pursuit of being human.
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This body of work, Conflict REVOLUTION®, is a lifelong system where you’re constantly monitoring what you’re thinking, how you’re processing your feeling, what Intuition is telling you to do. Are you doing it? Are you taking care of yourself? Are you making decisions that give you hope? If you’re not, then your intention can be that you will be revealed to yourself if you watch.
If you’re ever in doubt—“Why am I stuck? Why is this going on? Why am I just surviving?”—you have at any moment the opportunity to turn and observe yourself with the intention that you’ll find the answer and then set about to watch yourself. It’s challenging right now for humanity because there are so many forces in the world that are about taking the resources for the good of the few at the expense of the many. It is a system that is falling now, because it can’t sustain. It is not a sustainable form of societal structure when so many of the resources are held by so few.
This is in the process of tipping over. How that looks to any person is as unique as who that person is who is going through it. Some people will be refugees, some will be poor, some will be rich. Some people will be less rich, some people will be richer. You can’t even look at a worldwide condition so much as looking at your individual self in it, in this change as you’re here as the system goes through this change. How will it look?
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We can say quite definitively that the more that you nurture not only your own self-care and your own magical abilities to have an influence on your own energy—and we say “magical” sort of ironically, not really. Sometimes it seems magical when you set an intention and honor yourself and feel and breathe and look in the mirror of that conflict and bring it home and see where you’re not treating yourself well, where you’re not respecting yourself, then changing those things. It does seem sometimes like magic, how things change around you. It’s always a beautiful tribute when we see someone doing this and then facilitating this change as if by magic. The person who was so mad at you suddenly calls up and apologizes, or the triggers that you had with someone are gone, however you heal them without going straight at them.
This kind of interaction on the part of human beings adds up in every facet of society. It’s going to influence politics, science, food systems because it’s only people who are the projectors and perceivers of the universe. When they change to become compassion flowing through the physical body, it’s inevitable.
That’s why we say in the spring, not only be prepared to have some stuff to channel your energy into, but see in the world that, despite some of the difficulties and the hard times, there will be a new growth, a new surge of hope that’s coming, not from a political leader, not because science is telling you, but driven from within you to be one of those mothers and fathers who go out into the street and say, “No more war! War is an obsolete form of conflict resolution. It doesn’t work. We’re going to do a new way. We’re going to start with ourselves, and you don’t even have to participate, because we’re going to take over ourselves.”
And then work it. Live it. Breathe it. Become it. Study how big you really are. Study all the other parts of your operating system that are non-physical. See how they relate to other lives you’ve lived, other lives other people have lived. Get to know yourself in that way.
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We’re going to be here through the year with an opportunity to listen, to communicate, to answer questions, just making ourselves available.
Before we open for questions and conversations, we want to say that we see a lot of individual human beings excelling this year. Part of that excelling means that people find the courage to change themselves. It isn’t easy. It’s been a whole lot easier in many ways for humans to continue to sit back and point fingers at each other, blaming the other, and then taking action to punish the other. How we break out of this pattern on this planet can only begin on the individual level.
So yes, you want people to stop killing each other. Yes, you want the economy to be moving from one that relies on selling bullets and arms and bombs and killing people to being sustainable and regenerative. How does that work? You don’t know. Maybe you can’t today say, “This is how there’s going to be peace in the Middle East. This is how there will be a reduction of arms.” You don’t know. But that doesn’t matter. When you work on your part of that energy and treat yourself like a sovereign nation, how are you going to be a member nation of the world? Will you always be bombing your neighbors? Will you have sustainable government for yourself, one that will help you to thrive? This is all within your reach, no matter what the physical circumstances are.
We will confirm and acknowledge that the more pain you’re in, the more danger you’re in, the fewer resources that you have to survive, say water or food—those are special kinds of circumstances. But for the most part, in going about your everyday life, you have ample opportunity to build this new operating system from the ground up.
And we don’t want you to miss the miracles. We don’t want you to only focus on what isn’t there, but instead part of the hope that builds on the hope is when you do that hard work. It’s when you’re in your bedroom by yourself and you’re thinking about the conflict you had with that person and you’re breathing emotion and you’re concentrating on the metaphor. “What’s the metaphor for me?” And then you start exploring and using that incredible intellect to discover, “What mirror is this for me? Where is it?” And then finding it and doing whatever it takes, whatever Intuition tells you when you get there to do about that particular one, and there you are, you take that breath, and you react differently.
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And then when you return, up to the Lens, into the arena, pay attention to how that shifts. We want to encourage everyone who is listening to let this process this year, 2017 Reboot, let people be where they’re naturally going to be with you. We feel like as you learn to honor yourself more, you make decisions more for you and less for other people. When you do that, you find out that some people you thought were close to you are, but not quite like you thought, so you can let them drift a little bit farther on the circle of love. And we always advise people, if you’re having conflict with someone, push them a few circles back on your circle of friends so they’re not quite so close to you. Give it some perspective. Do your process, look at the archetype, look at the metaphor, and see what you can experiment with in your own space.
It doesn’t mean you’re pushing them away because they’re energy vampires or they’re draining you. It means you’ve got work to do and you’re going to do it there and you need some space. As long as you’re not holding them responsible for those feelings, like Barbara read from Diaries, where you want to point the finger at somebody else and say, “You’re the reason I’m conflicted.” But it just isn’t so. They’re a trigger, bringing your awareness to a conflict that exists within you already. But that’s a gift, because now, in this new positive, powerful way, conflicts aren’t a mistake, they’re not a bad thing, they’re nothing to be ashamed of, they’re a regular part of living, and now you have a way to turn them into great, constructive, creative solutions where everybody gets to benefit.
This is an exciting time to be around and to be alive. Certainly all of the work we have done here through Barbara for these past 30 years, using her voice, her hands, her knowledge of publishing books to create a body of work we feel is so vitally important to humanity right now. And more than ever, we see that the time has come to step out and articulate what we know and what we want and inspire people to become the change in that way. So to all of you, we are eternally grateful for your participation and for the loving energy that you bring. We hope that more people can benefit from this gift that we want to give you in 2017.
With that, are there questions or conversations?
Q: I’d like a little clarification. We talk about prayer, about praying for other people. I have a feeling that when we pray for other people, there’s a power in that and that we can change the world and our lives and other people’s lives. Also, I think about what lies in the past, and something’s really bugging me. I want to hope something happens to stop people from doing the bad things and change what they’re doing and you said you can’t change what someone else is doing with your thoughts. Can you talk about the difference between prayer compared to I guess a negative hope for someone’s future compared to a positive one, how we affect other people with our thoughts?
A: The idea of praying for someone is rarely detrimental. If you are praying for someone to do the greatest good for the whole situation, that’s different than praying that the Holocaust won’t happen. We’re not saying that one is better or worse than the other, because praying that the Holocaust doesn’t happen is sort of like praying that Donald Trump doesn’t start World War III. It’s not necessarily a negative thing. You don’t want to wish anyone harm or pray for anything personally bad to come to someone, that someone kills someone else, whatever scenario. But to hold somebody in a prayer that they achieve the greatest good for them and for all is always a good thing.
We feel the important addition to that is that work that is done on self. It’s almost like we talk about this work that we teach augments everything else. It’s not that we want you to quit practicing medicine. It’s that by studying this [yourself], you have a different relationship to medicine. By doing this in your work, you have a different relationship to your prayers and the power of that prayer. A lot of times it’s more powerful, because the truth is—now we’re going to get kind of esoteric and step away from the practical world—that there was purpose behind what happened with Einstein and Hitler. There is purpose for what Donald Trump is doing. There’s a purpose for this fear that’s been blanketed because it’s in the process of then turning into hope.
Do you want to wish that he doesn’t do those things? It’s a little specific to be you wanting what’s best for the good of the whole. That brings in the humility that you don’t understand the importance of someone’s karmic energy or interaction in their life. You don’t want people to suffer, but on the other hand, souls choose to come into the world so that evolutionarily they will be given a platform to evolve. If their evolution means some kind of awakening process that might seem like a struggle to you, your own struggle, who are you to take it away from them? There are a lot of different things to look at that way when it comes to the power of prayer. Prayer is an art.
You can make every day a waking, walking prayer in that you program yourself to always just be intending the greatest good for all, no matter what the situation is. Of course that’s harder to do when it’s someone you perceive has wronged you, but it’s what will give you the strength and character to keep the focus of your energy work on yourself, and from there is where all else springs.
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