The featured image is a picture of my backyard that I took the first time I saw it before we bought it. I was snapping pictures and didn’t even notice the orb moving upward and the ones on the inside until years later. This is in this yard where I talk to Einstein and the Party, as if it’s a portal, a “Clarity overlap” as he will go on to tell us in this reading.
Here we are, it’s January 26, 2020, which adds up to 4 (1+2+6+2+2=13; 1+3=4), by the way. I am in Lake Superior. There’s the most beautiful snow falling down and the silent trees surrounding us in all directions as we sit in the middle of the woods.
Wherever you are, get very comfortable. Start to slow your breathing down a bit and empty out your thoughts. Settle in. Open up your mind to receive information. Relax your neck and shoulders and be in that sacred space, that empty space.
From there, we will command that only the most divine light shine down upon us at this time, and the greatest good be present here.
Indeed this circle of souls who are able to be perceived by those of you who are willing to look. We want to say we are grateful that you look for this grand experiment. For all of the gratitude that you have for your lives, we also have for ours and for this experience that we are able to have with you.
This exciting new year, 2020—we had talked last time we convened about balance. About balance being the thematic of this year. We’re going carry that on into our upgraded discussion of pragmatic transcendence. Indeed you’ve discovered our secret. That all of these many, many years that we have been working through Barbara and on this particular platform, we have been slowly tiptoeing up behind you to show you what transcendence really means in a practical way.
We didn’t call it “transcendence” because there were cultural disadvantages to a broad stroke brush of “ascension,” “transcendence,” “evolution.” We wanted to first just show you what it is, get you understanding it, and then when you realize what it is that you have been studying and doing, it gives you a leap ahead. Like you get to skip a few grades.
These conversation we’re having with you about transcendence and looking back on your deathbed is the vehicle with which you skip ahead. You don’t wait for your deathbed to do those things. You do them well before you get there. When you do that, evolution and the ascension and all those other things are affected.
So yes, you are helping the evolution of the entire human consciousness. You are ascending to a sense that you are rising above the material world, which is part of the definition [of transcendence]: “independent of and above the material experience,” which means the Lens and you and your body. And then “the universe,” which means the universe you perceive with your body. That is just simply basic Maps of Human Consciousness 101, for those of you who know. There’s the Lens quite clearly.
There is an experience that is above and independent of the Lens. You might think that it’s not independent of the Lens because it’s one and the same. However, it’s independent of the Lens in that what goes on in the Lens is dependent upon the rest of the system and what’s going on in it.
You really are independent of the Lens of your human experience. But to teach you pragmatic transcendence, we have to use your physical body. You have to be the one in the Lens because, frankly, without all your physical bodies, there is no universe. There’s a lot of energy waiting to be organized into it. But it’s when you stick your hand in the swirling chaos and create the physical body that you create the Lens, that you create the whole universe.
So much more of who you are is not the material experience or the universe. It is the greatest part that is fueling that incredible creation into reality. So let’s go into that Lens.
Let’s get you all back into your chairs and out of that eternal part of you and into that finite life of Barbara or Jojo or Robin or Heike or David or whoever else is listening, Carmen: get back into your bodies right now. It’s January 26, 2020 and Barbara is in Lake Superior, David is in Australia, Carmen in is Romania, Robin’s in Portland and Jojo’s in Canada. We have a network of communication that is also hooked up to all the others who are practicing compassion in their own processes, of which there are billions of people.
This means that even perhaps a tribe of people who live far back into the jungle who aren’t a part of modern culture who don’t particularly have a religion except for that of the Earth. They are compassion if they are loving their child and loving each other, being a part of a community, being part of neighbors. That compassion. That’s regeneration.
All of that network we want to first of all anchor you in and remind you—we’re not anchoring you—we are just reminding you that you are anchored in to it. That way, you’re consciousness expands and you become a part of that network, too. It’s a huge network and it’s the essence of the God energy. When you truly dedicate yourself to working for the good of all and the good of the whole starting with yourself, you tap into that power. We need all of you tapping into that power that you are right now.
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the material experience or the universe. Something will be going on if you put your hand in there and create a hand puppet that’s your human self. Something chaotic will be going on in the physical realm. The goal has been to go in over and over and over again until you finally start to change, from the Clarity point of view, you start to change what manifests in the physical Lens, by changing what’s manifesting in the “Clarity overlap,” maybe we can say. There’s a place where the Clarity overlaps with the physical world. It’s your body.
By manipulating that energy that’s coming through your body in a way that’s for the good of all, you become powerhouses. In pragmatic transcendence, one of the most practical is the setting of the intention and the visioning. The fire in your belly that you would rather die than not manifest what is for the good of the whole. If you can’t be a beacon of that kind of shining light, then you don’t want to come back and live another life where you’re any less than committed to that.
That interestingly is about being what we’ve often called the “lead life.” That is, that you are in 2020 the physical life that is encompassing the thoughts/ feeling/ senses Emotion/ Intuition/ Intellect of all the other lives that you’ve lived. This is the life of transcendence. This is what you’re doing.
We’re so very proud of all of you because we can’t even begin to tell you how much farther along you’re doing at this than we would have imagined. Not that we didn’t think you could, but it’s just a brilliant display of opening when you see humans letting go in that way, furthering the anchor of this Compassion deeper into the planet.
That’s the whole idea. That’s how we’re going to get to where we’re going. And you’re a part of that process.
In this [idea] of taking the airplane for a ride instead of sitting in the library, it’s really truly all about channeling that natural fear (the fear of change, which is just another emotion that you can use to your advantage) or you can let it overcome you, and it will eat you to a disadvantage. But if you take that fear and channel it into that passion that you want to have to cultivate courage now, now while you are a live, while you have a body. That you have a chance, all of you who are listening, to change the world, to cultivate that kind of courage in yourself now. To step up and be exactly what you need to be and what you want to be. So much of that really begins with self-care.
We can’t stress this enough: self-care will filter all that other energy out into manifestation with that influence. That loving influence of self-care will emanate. People need permission, more than ever in this world, to self-care. People need permission to practice self-care, to practice self-love. The idea of going to your death bed and asking yourself, do you want to hang on to this person? Do you want to hang on like you’re hanging on now, like you’ll live forever? Whether it be that you’re angry at someone, or your bitter at someone, or you’re blaming someone, or there’s some sort of attachment—that’s what limits transcendence. And that’s what limits synchronicity. Because when you get attached to someone or something, as if they are the source, now you’re starting to weaken yourself. You’re starting not to care for yourself. You’re making decisions that don’t take in the good of the whole, starting with caring for you.
In the case of having a resentment for someone—people carry resentments for lifetimes and on into lifetimes—resentment or anger or blame, or any of those things that attach you, remember, it’s so simple … it’s hard to do when you’re in them and not because it’s hard to feel. It’s because intellectually, your mind is going to race, the more than you feel, the more your mind is going to be triggered to race and race and race to try to suppress those feelings or keep them safe, keep them contained, don’t really feel them. But you need to feel them all because you want to live your life with passion. You want to, in your own life, however it is, go out into the world and make a difference.
In your self-study as you’re moving forward at this time to get control of your domain, remember these things: when you’re imagining yourself at the end of life, we can rightfully say that you can’t really until you’re there. But if you meditate on other deaths that you have had in these many lives that you’ve lived, and do so with the intention to when you lie down in your meditation, to create a basket of love and calm and tenderness and support inside yourself in this moment, as if you’re going to receive maybe ghosts of your former self and of other lives who have experienced death. In a way, this exercise helps to diminish the fear of that transition because, trust us, you’ve made it many times before.
To think that you haven’t is an insult to what your body knows. Even if you don’t believe in that, to understand through empathy the end of life.
What we want to try and explain is the mechanics of it. So that when you’re at the end of life and you realize that you didn’t live your passion and there’s a bitterness and this deep regret that you wasted your life as you take your last breath. That [programmatic] energy, just like all the other energy that you’ve lived in that life gets trapped in the cycle again. There’s an abscess that going into energetic form: the body dies away, the string is still spinning with that abscess on it.
Now, in order for the bigger picture—remember we were on this mission to create life after life, this world that is manifest in peace and regeneration. Here’s one more life, and it’s OK, there’s no time. But if you’re really studying and you want to be a pilot, then you’re going to want to do it before you get to the end when you may not have a chance to decide if you’re going to let go of that resentment with that person or that blame that you’re putting on your father for doing this or your mother for not doing that, or your sister for whatever.
Bear in mind, pragmatically, this isn’t an insinuation that you are support to suddenly make friends with all of those people and you’re suddenly suppose to create one big happy family. What it means is that you do your work in your decision-making process, as in feeling and breathing emotion, and you take that emotion that gets triggered around that idea that it’s your father’s fault that you’re traumatized, or your father was this or your father was that, and you take that emotion that that generates and you re-direct. You pull it out with intention. You use those strong intentional intellectual structure that you’ve created for yourself to say, “I release you. Hoʻoponopono. Thank you for allowing me to access this deep energy.” You keep working it until you empty out your basement.
It’s going to seem like forever when you’re in the middle of it. It will always seem like it’s going to last forever and you’re never going to get out of it when you’re in the middle of it. That’s the tricky point of the process. But if you can step out into the Witness that we’re talking about, and have such self awareness that you can replace those thoughts. You have this preternatural preparedness for those moment because you know they are coming, they’re on the way. This intricate work, it’s the active, as opposed to the contemplative. You’re not just thinking about these things and talking about them with your friends.
You’re there, day after day after day. And there’s nothing else to do and there’s nowhere else to go. Be a human being with a body whose going to encompass the Clarity and be this Hierophant, filled with Clarity, to insert yourself into the world, wherever it is. Whether it be with your family or your neighbors or strangers, or just alone with yourself. How much transcendence can you create in a day for yourself in that gratitude.
Again, this does not mean that you’re denying what’s going on in the world. There’s a lot of things that are going on in the world. There are always a lot of things going on in the world. You just know about 99% more of them than any generation ever has.
Now granted, there are more things, the world is indeed more complex, but for you to not look at that world doesn’t mean you don’t ever have to look at it. But you’re looking at the Lens. Anything in the Lens that you’re seeing that’s frightening—war, all of those frightening things that are happening in the world—the changing of the climate, all the changes that are happening right now. We’re not suggesting that you pretend that they are not.
We’re saying when you transcend, you look at yourself from the place that is above and independent of those things. And when you do that, you realize more than ever why it’s so important for you now to be doing what you’re doing. That is the way that this world changes.
When you know what’s going on and you know that there’s potentials that are very frightening, again going back to capturing those emotions. Capturing them, breathing them, owning them, pulling them through, molding them as if you’re this pushing past the limits, pushing past human limits. You’re getting in touch with the other 90% of your operating system, and you’re expanding also into this idea into being one body, then you’re touching on a whole big greater part the energy.
If you think of this all like the power plant and how it transforms down, transforms down, it transforms down until finally it gets to be the outlet in your house that’s workable. That’s where our pragmatism, we hope, to focus on.
As we’re moving forward through this year, we want to nurture our relationship with you. You can feel more like everyone can bring information to the conversation, not just Barbara channels us, but everybody can have their conversation and have their information for them.
In the work that you’re doing, what’s so ironic for us is that the process that we have taught since we’ve been teaching this to other people through Barbara, the actual process hasn’t changed at all. The metaphors and parables and stories that are used to explain it are what has evolved. For example, if you’re dealing with an abusive husband, there’s one set of language that would help to empower you. If you’re dealing with perhaps a dying parent, there’s another set of language that would fit for that. But it’s the same process.
It has to do with this idea that we’ve been teaching you how to transcend since the beginning: mine those emotions. Look for them, appreciate them, have a new relationship to them. Be grateful for them. They’re not all going to feel good in your body and that’s ok. Life is not here so you can put yourself into a little form that only feels so much emotion. You’re here to expand and expand and expand. Then the other piece of it is this control of this intellect.
We’re going to tell you how many times the ego is still, with every human, just grappling for control. Even those of you who have worked so hard to get your egos under control and make them work for you, even then, it’s always an ever-present challenge to keep that ego voice in alignment. Remember that an ego that’s over inflated, where you’re thinking that you’re better or you’re great, or you’re the victim, is the same of a different kind of imbalance as the under-inflated, where you’re not worth anything and you don’t deserve to this or that. It’s all imbalance.
Bringing your ego into balance, first and foremost means you have to cultivate the courage to admit how out of control your ego can get and how much you need to train and be in charge of what those thoughts are and what emotion marries to what thought. Those are your jobs.
The transcendent steps really turn out to be exactly everything that we’ve been doing with you. We’re seeing this incredible progress on so many fronts. So don’t be fooled if the immediate environment doesn’t change and become comfortable immediately. Don’t let those kinds of things persuade your intellect into convincing you that it’s always going to be this way, or you have to worry about the future.
Everything that you can do to just let go in that moment and just be in that moment, what is around you, what is right around you—is the snow falling? Are you in line at the supermarket? Be in that moment. Be there.
Then, of course, lastly, part of what we’re going to take up later as we go on in the year is kind of creative ways to do old things. New, creative ways to channel your energy if you so choose. Different ways to look at even what we are comfortable with, what we think works. To begin to push everything outside its comfort zone. You know, that’s what science has always done. Science is a series of expanding past what the last discovered on their voyage to the edge. (We have to say that E=MC2, however, comes as close to the root as we’ve seen.)
But even science pushes itself. So why should human development not do that as well? We’re going to expound in our next dissertation about a more creative aspect and how to let the kind of creativity that we’ve been able to witness moving through Barbara’s being, as an example of a hyper-creative space, how to tap into that, how to make that for yourselves without extending past your self-care.
Before we open for questions and conversation, we would just like to once again say thank you. Thank you to Barbara for providing this voice. Thank you for coming and listening to us. Thank you for experimenting with what we think is really such an important part of human development. We cannot articulate the influence that you’re having. Regardless of what’s going on around you or what your circumstances are, we can’t articulate to you enough the profundity of your influence in what’s going on.
Cathy Kline would like to say that we are just an example of that, all of us, those of you who had bodies who knew her in her life, this work that you’re doing is such a brilliant example of creativity in its very high form of how to initiate change.
So when you’re looking at conflicts or you’re looking at challenges, summon your creativity. Don’t say, “I’m not creative” or “I can’t be creative, I don’t know what that means.” Just get out of the way—get your ego out of the way, and just all of the times its waiting to hear intuition with a little idea. If you’re not thinking all the time, there’s more room for you to hear something bubbling and watching it take off. Being able to develop a condition that nurtures creativity is really also part of what we’re looking forward to in these months ahead.
We will command that only the most divine light shine down upon us at this time, and that the greatest good be present here.
We are overwhelmed. We are so honored to be here with all of you today. And all that are to come. Because for as long as our mission has taken place, specifically the mission we have through Barbara and all of you and all of the many many many many many rings of influence that have been accumulated through the years. And now today, 12/29/19 is the first time that we have had an opportunity to have such a clear link from the physical to the nonphysical in the transformation of a human being.
Cathy has studied for years to get to this place and now she is here with us but had been there with you. And now we can bring forward even more clearly the idea that the different between life and death is so much more than you will ever begin to imagine in life. Even if you can imagine it, as much as you can possibly imagine of how fabulous and amazing and gigantic and life-changing this work that we’re doing right now is, it’s even more, exponentially, than you can imagine.
We hope that conveys the true awesome honor that we feel here today. When we started this project, we had many discussions about how to do this and what to do. As the Party, it was important that Einstein had not just Sigmund Freud, who was also someone he knew in the physical and now could know in the nonphysical, because we needed to craft a direction that would get us to where we are here today. What an outlandish story it seems, of finding three women who were willing to listen to our words and then use their actual live conflict as a way to learn themselves out of the old patterns. And into the new operating system.
It was important to have Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis to help in understanding culture and publishing and getting the message out into print.
Everyone who has moved this along is a part of the change. Whether just an hour with us. Or you have an hour with us and then you take that hour to someone else.
The spread of what we have wanted to accomplish was not meant during this period to go wide and far. It was meant to go deep, deep within each of you, who have decided to embody the change, to be the change. To take your belief that there is a super human power only it’s not God outside you it’s you. And move it forward into Compassion. We’re here to tell you, despite what you look at your troubled world, it’s headed for a similar place as Barbara with speaking of. When, for her and Kim and Teresa were going through their experimentation through all the years and all their conflicts. Today, they are closer and deeper and richer and fuller and together. That love has grown through all of that conflict and all of that work on that conflict to be something quite amazing and has influenced the evolution of human consciousness.
All of you who have done the same things with your lives, where you uncovered the darkness and went in to resolve your conflicts on your own map, on your own level to see that then the world opens up and manifests in a way that is greater than the sum of the parts. Manifests in ways that you couldn’t have gone at directly. You cannot solve the problems of your physical world at the same levels that you see them being created. You must go deep into the root.
All of you who have even just taken stabs at it, you might be new or beginning, or maybe you’ve never heard of this idea of Conflict REVOLUTION and taking care of your own darkness and owning your own power, All of you do know that, we thank you. We thank you all of us here and all of you there, we are on a journey together that cannot fail.
One thing we want encourage everyone to do, especially after this passed year, if we’re looking at the end of the year, 2019, There’s a new relationship people have in social media. It’s a very energetic relationship. It’s symbolic of what you can do without actually having to have devises. But you can see in the past 50 years how much culture has taken you into the realization that life is very complicated. It’s interconnected in ways that you don’t quite understand how you can be on the other side of the world in a split second on social media or on the internet. And live, too! There’s a new challenges in this expansion of consciousness having to do with that. Clearly, when someone is not working for the good of the whole, working at the good of the few of the expense of the many. Or the expense of anyone. There is no reason to work at anyone’s expense. In the term of evil—working for the food of the few at the expense of the many—the more that you can detach and really say you don’t know, much like the Massage Cream Conflict. Still allow yourself to have a belief.
This is part of a challenge for those of you who don’t want to pretend that there aren’t great wars in the world, and injustices and things that do need to be stood up for. Energy that does need to be put towards bettering environment and your world right now in 2019.
To detach from the political battles, even the scientific battles, somebody’s right, somebody’s wrong. It’s a mechanism; it’s a system. It’s part of why the government in the Unites States right now is having such … well we won’t talk about that but … Because it’s right against wrong, and each side thinks they’re right and no one’s going to back down. There is a bigger force behind all of it that has been rising in this time of extreme, extreme wealth and extreme, extreme poverty.
It’s controversial not to make a judgment right now. If you’re looking at the physical world because you can’t let evil stand. But it’s very important that human’s understand as they’re moving forward what that really means. Because in one hand, you can go out and say, “That set of belief systems is evil.” Yes, putting children in jail, those kinds of things are evil. What do you do in the physical world to address those things.
In that area, we would say keep the detachment but find in your immediate world areas where you can interject yourself with this new operating system and this new way of resolving conflict and being the change. In a situation that is important to you there. So you don’t stop interacting and working for social justice you’re just doing this first.
Doing this first with yourself precipitates a kind of change that you won’t be able to predict in the physical world. You know it’s going to happen. For those of you have practitioned this for all these years, you know that when you do the process, you get the miracle. You can’t predict it and that’s the beauty of the process. Having that detachment and separating the idea that, “I don’t know the whole story but here’s what I believe. But I don’t know the whole story, so I’m not going to argue so much that I’m right.”
That’s another thing to be aware of in yourself, is when are you in that mode that you’re going to argue that you’re right. There are times when, yes, you have to stand up for somebody or something, and you are right. There’s times when it’s just. But it’s not a way of life. It’s not a personality trait that you always have to be right. That’s not what you want.
You want to find those areas and transform them yourself, where you can add just a little—when you’re in that place and you want to be right—you go into that mystery to say, you know what, I just don’t know if what I believe is fully the whole truth that I have to stand up for.
This kind of new thinking in those moments won’t always be well received because you all know the ego and how egotistical it can be. But it pushes it in the long run. It’s one more step that you manifest the new operating system. Where you manifest the new perspective, embodied it and made decisions around it.
Being able to be detached is really ultimately what gets you to transcendence. This goes back to what happened with Barbara and Catherine in her apartment at the end of her life, when even Barbara’s mother got a hold of the psychic and had her text Barbara that they were doing the right thing. This is a tribute to the work of all of you and all of us and the Party.
It happens so readily because Catherine let go of the Lens. Her ability in life to be tenacious and tough helped her in the end as she did everything in present moment to prepare her children and grandchildren. She did everything she could and by the time she got to the end of her life, the one thing that she knew was that she did that. That she prepared, to the best of her ability, and she knew that when she left, there was going to be a whole explosion in all of them, but she would be there for them when she figured out what was happening after she died. She knew she would be there for them and that ability to let go of life itself brings you into the condition of Afterlife which we’ve been teaching lately as called the Clarity.
We want to take you briefly into the Clarity. All of you imagine you’re alone, you are in the middle of a huge plane, like [the movie] The Matrix, where it was just white forever. You are on a plane. Imagine you’re sitting in a chair. Then imagine, actually, that there’s all of us in a ring sitting in chairs looking at each other in the circle. Imagine we’re all wearing beautiful white coats and suits. The chairs are white and everything is white. It’s just a plane as far as far as you can see.
Now we’re going to put a boundary on it. We’re going to sit in this Clarity, which is eternal, expansive and infinite and we have a little piece of it. We’re going to be in our Clarity. What that means is that this is a place of Afterlife. This is a place of consciousness that is learning how to be conscious in bigger and broader ways than consciousness has ever been conscious before.
In this Clarity, one thing that We the Party and you who are listening have helped us bring forth is the idea of how four-dimensional reality in the Lens is created. As we sit together in this Clarity, we’re here forever. You can come and go. There’s other things you can do. If you think about being in Afterlifge with us and there’s a ring of chairs and a circle of souls, some people come and go. Sometimes The circle pulls in and it’s fewer and there’s a bigger audience behind. It’s always ever changing, ever moving. Sometimes groups of three come up to speak in the voice of We, and sometimes you have individuals.
For the most part, this voice of Clarity, this voice of the Party, this voice of unison human consciousness that is being pushed to evolve into Compassion. That’s who we are all are today. And let us tell you: that world we’re looking down on that’s so troubled right now in 2019—and it has been—is filled over flowing with people connected in this network. Because to get to Compassion, you don’t need Conflict REVOLUTION. You don’t need this, you don’t need the Party. You need the commitment to yourself, whatever inspires you to do it. Whether it’s Christianity that inspires you to be that superhuman that’s going to be like Jesus who could change the water into wine. Or whoever, whatever—nature—inspires you to be this superhuman. Take your power into your own hands. Manipulate it for the good of the whole.
The troubled planet is in a process where they are discovering who they really are. Just like Barbara, Teresa and Kim had to discover who they really were, not who they should have been, or who Culture wanted them to be, or who they were patterning because of ancient patterns going on, but who they really were. You being here at this time is no mistake. It’s a brilliant and advantageous.
We see coming into 2020 that this movement of Compassion is going to take on more power than ever. It is being fed by its need: the need to take over. The need for Compassion. And you have what that takes. You have that answer. You are the change and we’re very excited.
You are the change not if you perfect something. Not if you never get triggered again and all your decisions are brilliant. But you are the change, especially right now where it is so complicated and so hard, you are the change of your local universe, of your part of the Lens. Your entire life. As you move into 2020 that’s your theme, that you a) have the superhuman power within you, b) it’s not that you’re perfect, it’s that you’re going to apply it as needed.
The idea isn’t to become “perfected” where you never make a mistake or you never get angry or you’re never say the wrong thing. The idea is to have a system in place that is so superconscious of what you’re doing that you start to make changes to those things. Slowly but surely, all of you have learned that you get more evolved when you do that. You still make mistakes. You still say things … Don’t look for that as a sign that you’re succeeding. Look at how many times you’re going to start over again and say, what do you really know and what do you believe?
Do you want to be right or do you want to have peace? Because those little tiny decisions are just as important as any other decision about big things. Every time you don’t have to instigate into a conflicted conversation with your sister [for example]. You just don’t care anymore to do that. She might still be riled up, but you’re not going to feed it. Every time you do those little things, it’s so important.
We’re hoping that in 2020 there is catch-up time to some of the things that we’ve been training for all of these years. We hope to help instigate the Universe pulling you few farther out into the world. If you are new and you get introduced to our information, and then you go off into the world and think, “Well, that’s really not for me,” that’s okay. The whole idea is that in the little bit of introduction of how to have a different operating system that you go off and do it. We’re not a font where you have to keep coming back and filling up your cup because you can’t live without us.
We happen to like to come together because there’s not a lot of people in the physical world in the Lens for you right now who can have these conversations this deep with you. That’s why we want to keep having them with you. But you—all of you—are charged with going out into your worlds and having the same conversations in everyday language. You don’t have to teach someone Conflict REVOLUTION. You demonstrate it. You work it in your life, however it works for you. That’s the whole idea, it’s meant to be very human specific. You will do things at your time. Intuition will tell you. Only you will know what to think, how to feel. That’s your business. That’s your full domain. How exciting to know that!
No, it’s not always exciting to go into the dark side. In the biggest picture, as Cathy Kline will tell you, it’s very exciting. She wished she would have gone deeper. She wished she could have gone deeper when she was there. But for whatever reason, she did it as she did it. She’s learning as she learns. Never be afraid to go deeper. If it means feeling and breathing, then it’s like mining out the abscesses, all those patterns that are packed in the emotions that never got to move through the body.
Think about when you reincarnate (if you’re there with us) and you go through a life and you have these abscesses that are still in that string when your body dies. It’s a wonder that anybody can figure anything out energetically these days, it’s so very complicated.
We’re so excited about this coming year and how much growth is going show up. You’re going to find more and more people are more attuned to wanting to be the change, to wanting to know how to do that. You’re going to find more and more situations individually where you can put that intention forward. More than you know, because you make so many decisions in a day. You have so many interactions, it’d be hard for your human mind to get up with all of them. There’s always more places.
What that gets you to—and we’re saying this as an experiment, of course—what we hope it gets you to is where you with the bodies are so aware of us here in the Clarity and the part of you that’s in the Clarity, it’s one system. It’s no longer separated by if you have a body or not. There’s a structure and framework that’s we’ve given you that’s psychologically and psychically, energetically to see where you are when the body is gone and there is no more Lens. The Human Intention isn’t focused on that particular string to bring into physical life. This is no small potato thing.
It’s going on in your everyday world. In that physical world where most people don’t think about death or these things. It’s like you’re secret agents. If you think about being a secret agent for the good of the whole, a secret agent doesn’t reveal all that depth of what’s really going on, what they really know. They’re not really transparent. They’re not doing it to manipulate but to influence. To influence the outcome without letting you know that they’re a secret agent. Often times, you won’t have to have that talk with that neighbor or sit down and tell your son this. You can express it to yourself in your understanding to get to know who it is that you are. What you want from a situation and then let it go and go back to present moment where you will commit to be in that transcendent moment where you’re right there listening, listening for your intuition, listening for what your thoughts are, your Intellect, always moving that emotion through your breath. This expansion that you’re in is going to take a profound step next year.
Before we open for questions and conversation, we would love to talk a little bit about 2020 in terms of being a year of balance. Balance is coming to you whether you want it or not.
As you move into next year, keep this in mind: when you find yourself stressed or struggling, think about if the energies were trying help you manifest a life of balance. Now, if you were getting your PhD and doing your thesis , that is not a life of balance, necessarily. But there are ways to approach the imbalanced life with balance. The universe is going to be conspiring to help you build a strong balance into the system.
For some of you, that may not be an issue. For some of you who are maybe too balanced every now and again, it will throw you off balance, to get you into the process of getting back into balance. For most people, the balancing act doesn’t take place out there in the world. It takes place inside you. What is your relationship going to be to what is the truth, and what you believe, and if you’re going to be right or if you’re going to make peace.
We can say right now it’s going to help you to commit and intend to want to make peace. To commit and intend to stray away from behavior that engages in needing to be right. Even if, and maybe mostly more important, try to stray away from those behaviors when you really are right. You even really have the proof of it. Because if you’re in a position where you want to be right and you actually have the proof, and you take that proof and you put it out there, “Here’s the proof!” Well, okay.
Now you’re right.
But what did it do to the peace?
On the other hand, if you’re committed to the peace and you find out you’re right, it may not even matter anymore. You might be working with somebody whose—if you were to prove that you were right, that you could clearly see that person was going in the wrong direction—there are other ways to influence people.
But when you look at the world and it’s so crazy and everybody’s so pitted against each other and you get wrapped up!
And nobody’s faulting you! This is the journey. This is the important piece/peace of everyday life for you. being on the planet, being in the Lens, having these human experiences and choosing to pull your superpower into the intention to commit Compassion at every turn. And that’s going to be the force that leads the rest of the change forward. Not what’s going on on the planet. That’s not going to lead the change forward. This is leading the change forward.
If there’s nothing that we leave you with today other than embrace this gift to be able to be this conscious during this time in this era. We hope to inspire you continue to watch and be amazed.
And please help yourself to this free eBook, 2017 Series Re-Boot Camp. Includes interviews with Robin Cordova, Kimberly Lilith Phelps, Cathy Kline, Leslie Stewart and Ken Routson on subjects of hope, joy, Conflict REVOLUTION® 101, thriving, the gifts of Alzheimer’s and autism, and so much more!
0:00:00.0 Barbara: Well, good morning, afternoon, or evening. It is November 19th, 2017. This is Barbara With, with the Party of 12, guided by Albert Einstein. You who are here with us, listening, either live or downloaded, know that I started this year doing this series I’ve called a Re-Boot Camp, one a month, designed to bring in other perspectives on the information that we’ve been studying for so long. I had special guests, people talking. And then summer came, and my life, as it is wont to do in summer, got very busy with other things, and I haven’t produced one since then.
I’ve been on a nice journey myself. I hope you all have been, shall we say, finding your path. I had a wonderful summer tour with my friends Fredy Argir and Bill Smithfor about three weeks, playing music together. We’re old friends. We used to play back in the ’70s and we reunited on this tour. One of our members, Lonny Knight, passed away before the tour could take place, so Fred and I went on and did it. It was a really remarkable experience to play 12 shows in 16 days in about eight different cities again, as a musician who’s been on the road before—I started out as a musician.
Now today, I’m here in Paris, where I’ve come for about six weeks on what I call a pilgrimage of creativity. I have an apartment with a piano and time enough to settle into Paris and develop more of a local feel. So far the experience of being in Paris is wonderful, beyond what I ever could have imagined. I’m in love here. I will come back and do this again. I’m in love with Paris.
But while I’ve been here, my friends back home on the Bad River Indian reservation in Ashland have had a bad time. I live on Madeline Island in northern Wisconsin and Lake Superior. The Bad River Indian Reservation, and Red Cliff—the Lake Superior band of Chippewa have a big presence in my community, and I’m very much a part of their lives. My friends’ nephew, grandson, son—a 14-year-old boy was shot to death by the police.
This was and is another event that I’m talking about when I say I think the world’s gone insane and it’s because we have a mental disorder. The Intellect is raging out of control right now. The imbalances that we experience personally and then the imbalances in the world have left us so that we don’t know what to think. What do we think any more? It doesn’t surprise you, does it, to hear me say this, after everything that’s gone on this year? Natural disasters, school shootings, hate marches—the world seems to have gone completely insane.
I decided for this Re-Boot that I wouldn’t plan anything. I wouldn’t have a guest because I wanted to hear from Einstein. I have to admit that after I fell down the stairs and tackled some postoperative narcotic psychosis, as I called it, I wondered if I had become brain-damaged. But it turned out I was de-toxing from all of the deadly drugs that they gave me during the operation. During that time I wondered how channeling would be after the traumatic and shocking experience of falling down about 20 stairs and breaking my wrist.
I can tell you, for me, it’s taken it to another level, the whole experience, a deeper level for me. For those of you who have had a before-and-after experience, you can attest to how it keeps getting more articulate and more precise and more inspiring.
I did a reading for a woman a couple of days ago. She said, “Do you get stuff out of this, too?” I said, “I get connected to what the truth is. Every time I do a reading, I get to go into that place of the non-physical and be connected to what the really big story is. When I come back to the Lens, I can be a little more detached and thus a little more effective and a little more able to enjoy life even when it’s not enjoyable.”
After Jason Pero, 14 years old, died, I wrote a story about it. So instead of writing music, I went back to my journalism. You can find it at the WisconsinCitizens Media Coop. I wrote the story of his murder and the epidemic of murders and why there’s an epidemic of police murders, about what the structure of the law is that is allowing this to continue to take place. But on the bigger level, what are we going to do?
Those are unanswerable questions at this point, on November 19th, 2017, except that I’ve watched my community come together and not be hampered by racism. The county board has called a special meeting to be held at the reservation, big enough so everyone can speak. We’re going to come together as a community and make a change.
Regardless of if there will be justice in the political system, this gets back to what I’m looking forward to hearing today from the Party about the state of the world. Because I know in my brain, I know intellectually that my job is to live in the world but not of it. That doesn’t mean I don’t care about people, or I won’t take action or take steps to help my neighbors, or stand up for justice.
It means that when I know why I’m here and I know what my purpose is—to love, that’s the bottom line, to learn what that means—the whole world is a platform for me to put that into play. Then I’m more effective in having a meaningful, fulfilling life, despite the fact that the world might be coming to an end.
If you add that to what we’re doing— we are experimenting with the manifestation of creation with the intent to use our love filters for our own energy, to shape and intend that we’ll be the change. That’s why we’re here. I don’t think any of us came here to be punished for another life, any of that. What we’re here for is to use all of these circumstances to turn ourselves into love.
In that sense, with Jason’s unfortunate killing, knowing what I know became something much different from thinking that I have to go in there and demand that that police officer be held accountable for what he did. I don’t have to use a lot of energy and emotion trying to manipulate the Lens. I can step back and take a breath and say, “What can I use my energy for to make sure the good of the whole is achieved here?” I was able to do that with this event [by writing the story].
I know the family. It’s a horrible, horrible thing. I used all of that deep emotion to focus on writing a piece that was about educating people and asking the right questions, rather than roiling up in a terrible situation that has many sides to it.
Just the fact that I could do that in those circumstances was a sign to me of the work that we’ve been doing—and I say “we” because I can’t do this work without you all. And I do it alone, you do it alone, but we need each other to continue to remind ourselves of why we’re here in this crazy world right now.
As I mentioned in my blog the other day, my family has had two murders, my cousin Amy in 2006 and my nephew Howie in 2012, that forced me to examine my belief system, to ask myself what I believe about eternal life, about forgiveness. “Here are the deaths. What will you do, and how will you do it?” Applying Conflict REVOLUTION intentionally to each of them, I believe, especially with my nephew’s murder, that we made miracles. My sister has fully participated in that, and it has indeed created miracles.
So with all of this experimentation we’re doing, I’m hoping that those of you who are listening and thinking about what the unified field theory and Conflict REVOLUTION mean and how you use it in your life, at the very least you can know as you learn that it is effective. I will say, without a doubt, that every single time I do it, I get an outcome that is bigger than I could have done myself, going at it in the Lens, trying to prove justice needs to be done. I can do it better and have an outcome that’s bigger than I could have ever imagined.
Today I want Einstein to talk to us about the practicality of this. Many of you have been listening to this information and using it in your life like lab rats. I want to inspire you to never forget that it’s the baby steps. Your mind can’t logically draw correlations between how you taking care of yourself will help world peace. [It’s because] you are then becoming the one who is loving yourself. If Intuition is telling you to slow down, when you follow it, you are then the one who becomes the vehicle for love of self. It seems like such a little thing, and we you get carried away with all the details of our lives.
I know that you, Robin, are very busy right now, there’s so much going on. But when we slow down to the baby step, the next most advantageous step, we have the knowledge that by doing that little thing, taking care of that, taking care of your life, that you’ll effect an outcome or be guided somewhere that you couldn’t do by yourself.
For me, I think my life is living proof of it. You don’t have to prove it to anyone, but every day, when I feel and breathe, when I let myself listen to Intuition and do what it says without fighting it, I am able to create outcomes of much greater good all the way around. Why wouldn’t that ripple out into the rest of the world, why wouldn’t the people in the supermarket line, the librarian, everybody we come into contact with get to experience living love?
I’d like us to begin today with a guided visualization.
Close your eyes. Turn your focus inward. Take a few deep breaths. Let’s go into the vision that we are all out in the heavens looking down on the beautiful, beautiful planet earth. Linda’s somewhere around LA, Sharon’s in Minneapolis (we’re pointing on the map) Barbara’s way over there in Paris, Robin’s way over there in Washington state, Carmen’s in Romania, David is in Australia, Heike is in Norway, a bunch of people all over the world.
We’re looking down and we’re seeing the Lens that we are each creating. Robin, I can see you sitting in your kitchen or in a comfortable room of your house. But from here, up in the heavens, I can’t see anything but the planet. In these two places we begin to get accustomed to the fact that we are much bigger than our DNA space-time human body having the physical experience. Our energy and our operating system are so much bigger than we know.
One reason we begin with this visualization of being in many different places at once is to get you in touch with those places energetically in the DNA space-time body that is sitting there in the Lens. We want your physical body to also be connected to this ethereal perspective up here in the heavens as the Observer, looking down on the planet, the big, big, biggest picture.
So there’s the planet. Then there’s the physical world of the Lens. Then there’s the last piece of this holy trinity of Human Intention, which is the Source. That is in the middle of Mother Earth, the very center of the planet, where all humankind erupts from.
So here we are, out in the heavens. We see ourselves down there on the planet. We get into the planet, we feel and anchor into the center of the earth. And we feel a wave that is our identity, flowing from the source, from the center of the planet, flowing up through the earth, bursting out through the edge of the earth to create your physical body, which is then the projector and the perceiver of the entire universe.
Isn’t that amazing? Despite what’s going on in the Lens, despite all the terrible things we’re describing going on on the planet, isn’t that amazing? Creation of human life, the gravitational wave bursting forth, your physical body is projecting the universe and then it’s perceiving it back—the entire universe. All the energy is slowed down, everything separates so you can perceive separation, perceive the physical world.
To me, that alone is beyond description—even though we just tried to describe it! It’s like how there are really no words for God, because it’s too big. And when we start knowing ourselves this deeply, by the time we get to the Lens, yes, there’s a lot going on in the Lens. But it’s just a passing-through point. It is the manifestation of the creation, but it’s just a passing-through point for that wave that’s going on into the heavens, picking up into the earth’s electromagnetic field, going back down the North Pole, back down to the center, as it spins and spins at the speed of light squared. And the Lens is what slows that wave down and separates out everything else, creates your DNA body, puts you in that space-time, in that latitude and longitude.
I’ve noticed, being in Paris, that when I go to Google Maps, they don’t give you an address any more. They give you latitude and longitude. All of this is the mathematics. And that right there, what we just described, that vision of the spinning string and the human Intention, as we call it, the Observer in the heavens, the Lens of the physical world, the Source in the center of the planet, that is the operating system of human consciousness. What you program into it is what you’ll manifest in the Lens.
All of this can help us have a different perspective of what is going on in the Lens. And it means the difference between feeling like a victim to this physical world—“Oh, why, oh, why was I born at this time? Oh, my God, how can these horrible things be happening to us? Let’s blame the Republicans, the Democrats, the rich, the poor! It’s all going to hell in a hand basket.”
OK, I get that. I’m there. But when we can back up and remember our mission—world peace, one person at a time, starting with me—to become the love that will guide human consciousness into the next step of evolution, [then] we all have so much more power.
0:20:11.9 We will command that only the most divine light shine down upon you at this time and the greatest good be present here.
The Party: We are so honored to welcome you to this circle, all of you who are listening all over the world at different times, in different spaces, in different bodies. We have convened a collection of souls, shall we say, that at this time brings not a new message so much as an uplifted and supportive message.
All of the work that we are doing—those of us who don’t have bodies, who still have consciousness, who still have access to thoughts, feelings, senses, memories—we are working at a new level of consciousness ourselves. We, too, after all of this time and all of this work, have gotten to a place where our clarity is even greater, where our understanding of how to inspire has come a very long way in our mission.
Just to back up a bit, when we talk about our “mission,” the Party of 12 and Albert Einstein—who’d have thunk it (laughs)—we are talking about a very specific decision that we made in Afterlife as a group to work for the good of the whole, to bring information that we have learned in our lives as physical beings and now in the Afterlife as a new kind of consciousness, a new kind of power. We can’t talk to you at this point about our lesson, because it’s at a level that you as humans wouldn’t comprehend. And not because you’re idiots, but because you’re focused on something completely different.
So suffice it to say that we come to you today with an even greater understanding that your intentions, yes, indeed, have a huge impact upon the manifestation of your world. Your world is incredibly complex, and you as humans have had to dummy down what you understand of energy in order to have a human experience. You’re putting these multiple dimensions into a much smaller space that the Lens affords you.
You have a life-and-death focus on that Lens while you’re having a physical body. That doesn’t detract from your ability to expand your awareness of your non-physical self. In fact, it gives you a platform from which to work for you to expand your own consciousness, to understand in the course of one day in your physical body that when you wake up from the dead and your body opens its eyes and begins its projecting and perceiving experience, you have 24 hours in that day to have a new relationship to yourself in any number of ways. That new relationship over time in the physical body, one day at a time, is what changes the manifestation.
If you’re talking about something personal in your life—a conflict you’ve had with a neighbor or some puzzling situation in your life that you’re worried about—those are the moments when you have the power to take control of that energy and effect change on the smallest of steps.
You all know what we’re talking about. You know yourselves well enough to know when you’re in that place of feeling like you’re out of control—maybe anxiety has taken over, or there’s so much going on in the world that you can’t even begin to address how to resolve the conflict because it’s overwhelming—one tragedy after another, too much emotion coming, all of those things.
When you’re not in that state, when you’re in a comfortable, safe place, you can say, “You know, if in that moment I could change my thought process while the heavy emotion was coming through, whatever that anxiety was …,” you know that you could change the outcome of your life.
Not that you always have control—you haven’t trained yourself yet in how to take the control that is yours to take. But it is yours to control. Your thoughts are yours to control. You have that right and that power.
Whether you exercise it or not, this is one of the greatest moments of change that you could have—when overwhelming emotion is surging through you and you’re triggered by something that could very much be real. It isn’t like you’re imagining it. Seeing another mass shooting, you’ve gotten to a place where you’re numb because you cannot take in any more of that emotion.
We say, if you can take in that emotion and interject a new intellectual message as it’s coming through live, we know you can change that. What we don’t know is if you can do it in that moment. That is one of the most insane, out-of-control conditions that a human can be in, when you’re panicking, when you have anxiety or depression that manifests perhaps the other way in keeping you heavy and down and incapacitated rather than agitated—it’s all the same thing.
Despite what we’re going to talk about later on in this dissertation in your relationship to the state of the world today, more than ever we know that if you can get yourself there in the moment of that powerful surge of emotion and wrestle the Intellect back to being something of a superconscious nature rather than, “Oh, my God, the whole world’s coming to an end!”—you can remind yourselves that these are the moments you came here for: to feel and breathe, to move human consciousness into this next step of becoming the manifestation of the love that’s at our root. The world is so far from that now, it seems, doesn’t it?
This is why when you do it, you are building pieces of DNA that change the future of human consciousness. You’ll never see that when you’re looking at the world and at all the horrible things going on in the Lens and it’s causing you to go numb or to be conflicted or to want to run away. You can see it if you stop and remind yourself of your mission here and hold that space with your breath while you’re envisioning humankind turning that corner. You’re not just envisioning it. You’re becoming the change in that moment, when you take that breath. And that’s part of what moves the adaptation of human consciousness forward, like a missing link.
But your mind wants to complicate things. Your mind and your Intellect want to take control of the entire system. We want to suggest that as you deal with these situations, which are very real in the Lens, that you look metaphorically at all of those evil characters that are emerging: the people who have turned greedy, who are lying to you, who are stealing and destroying. Look at those people from your Source. They, too, are part of your gravitational wave that is being projected and perceived by you. They also represent a part of your Intellect that wants to grab control and define things as hopeless or helpless or to judge things or to blame someone or to blame yourself. And these thoughts of yours are part of the collective Intellect of human consciousness right now.
While you cannot control everyone’s thoughts, you can control your own. You can learn what they are, what they’re telling you. You can do an experiment. Once you learn those voices in your head—the thoughts that are greedy and want to destroy your truth, which is that you are a miracle having this experience, that you are powerful beyond measure—we are teaching you hopefully the power of your intention.
We are very honored and happy that Barbara has worked with us for all of this time and concur with the idea that every time you do this experiment and take control of your intention, that you muster up the power to make a change in your life. The change can happen overnight. It can happen right there. But you must think in longer terms. You must think personally that you’re here at this time unifying a whole lot of other [past] lives, learning a great deal more information than you ever thought you wanted to know, and dealing with things that you never dreamt you would be faced with dealing with.
You are in this world to do this, to be that change. What do you need to do to get a grasp of what your intention will be?
One thing we want to suggest is that you do an experiment with yourself. When you get up in the morning, after you say, “Thank you for another miraculous day of having a body that’s projecting and perceiving the entire universe”—that’s a miracle right there. That’s the first thing.
Then, as you set your intention, be tiny. Don’t try to change your whole life in one day. Focus on one step or another. We would say the first one is about that intention. Any time you feel you’re going into a situation where you don’t have control and you don’t know how it will work out and you’re triggered with uncomfortable emotion, find whatever it is that will be a little slap in your own face. Wake up! Remember:
I am a powerful person. I am a miracle just standing here. And I can change this. I can influence this. I intend to influence whatever this situation is that I’m afraid of for the good of the whole. And yes, I might fall down, I might make mistakes, I might stumble. Surely I’ll be feeling a lot of emotion. Guide me, Intuition, so that I am taking steps for the good of the whole here.
Sometimes you won’t know. You won’t be able to say, “Oh, well, here, this is for the good of the whole.” You have to trust what you are being impelled to do from deep in your heart—not from your thinking process. You need to listen to that Intuition that is deep within you, rising up always, every moment, part of that string that’s spinning at the speed of light squared, telling you that next most advantageous step for the good of the whole of creation—the whole universe that you are projecting and perceiving. That voice is within you. No one can take it away from you. You can drown it out and not know what it is, but it’s there, and it’s working. This is your chance.
So you fully intend that you will use this incredible power of love that is your birthright. You can’t escape it. It’s what you’re made of: Compassion, the fifth fundamental force of the universe. You will take this, and for whatever time you have left on this planet as that person in that DNA space-time body, you will become this change and you’ll fully intend to find out, to learn, to discover what that means in every moment.
With the holidays coming up, we think this is a perfect opportunity for you to experiment with triggers and change, self-change, self-revelation. How loving can you be, first and foremost, to yourself? That’s the question.
Are you going to let voices in your head that belittle you, judge you, demean you bring you down? Because you can and you will. But there’s a bigger force now as you also become a witness to what that Intellect is doing and make conscientious decisions to change what those thoughts are while you are feeling the feelings.
You can do it if you’re just happy, sitting around thinking about it, you can change thinking. But the front line is when that discomforting emotion surges through that you don’t want to feel and then those thoughts are triggered. You can go numb and not listen to your thinking, and you might find yourself perpetuating the pain, the fear, the anxiety that you’re trying to release from.
These ideas are not revolutionary. You hear them in other places. This is not something only we have said. You hear these concepts in many other avenues of teaching and learning. But only you can know you. Only you will be the one who can clearly say what will get you to change your perspective, to deal with your thoughts and emotions differently. Only you can do that. That’s the ultimate power that you’ve been given, and that’s why you’re here at this time, in this world.
As difficult as the state of the world is right now, the other side that we see is that human consciousness is indeed making a huge leap forward. Because of having to deal with all the conflicts in the world through the ages, because of people now wanting to find completely new and revolutionary ways to approach the world, to make this world the place you want your children and your grandchildren, seven generations, to be born into.
And it’s working: the babies being born today come with so much greater sensibility than you could ever have imagined. That doesn’t mean you must stop doing your experimentation of how you can be love, but maybe it can inspire you to keep going with it when you look upon the faces of the new children coming into the world.
It’s a very joyful time! You’re seeing souls coming willingly to the planet. “Take me! I can do it! I can become love.” They’re not afraid. They know what they’re getting into on a soul level, and they’re happy to be there.
Every generation is helping to take that step. The ancestors are also participating in pushing this evolution forward. Remember, this is all about adaptation. Human consciousness and energy are about adapting to what is manifest.
That’s your life, too, in a nutshell. You get up every day. You put one foot in front of the other. You think you have a plan—“I’ll go to work at 10:00. I’ll do this at noon. I’ll do this at 4:00.” But you have a whole day that rises up for you to discover what your relationship is to it, how you’ll make decisions, how you’ll approach it, and what your relationship with you will look like as the basis for the projection that you see the world as.
We are thoroughly grateful on all levels that you are listening, that you are coming together, that you’re pushing yourselves to learn more than anyone can teach you but yourself. This is an exciting and inspiring time for us in the evolution of human consciousness, and you have, forever, our thanks.
Are there any questions or conversations?
Barbara: This is Barbara. (laughs) I know I’ve never done this before, where I’ve just jumped out of the channel and had a question, but stranger things have happened in the world.
I love all that you say, and I know that it’s true from my point of view as the person who’s been with this maybe the longest, with you, with Einstein and the Party. Do you think that humankind will get it in our lifetime? I get pretty afraid sometimes.
In fact, before I came to France, I said, something could happen between North Korea and the U.S. and I might not be able to go home. And then I started thinking about, if something did happen, then the U.S. becomes a whole other country. I know we’re not supposed to go there, but it still sometimes seems way too big for me. You know I live this way, and everything you say I find true. But I need a little bit more to understand.
Party: Well, we would say that it’s an experiment to the best of everyone’s ability. You ask, will humankind get it in your lifetime, and which part of humankind? It’s like the story of the elephant and the five blind people who are touching the different parts of the elephant. It’s already happening.
You could think of it this way: that if it weren’t happening, there already would have been a great cataclysmic event. Not to say that there can’t be, but because of the consciousness-raising through the years, because of the millions and millions of people who are participating in this like you are, it could be a lot worse. And that’s what you can’t see. That’s what we can’t measure so much. It’s a psychological perspective that can help you not have to worry so much about those kinds of questions. It tricks your mind into thinking about it in a different way that can free you up And that’s the idea: detachment.
We have taught this information and will continue to teach this information very firmly and concisely. We understand about human emotion. We understand that humans get frustrated. But it does you no good if we don’t keep a strong hand to hold you accountable for your power. We feel that your power and getting control of it is the answer anyway, whether everyone on the planet does it or not. If they did, we could effect change very quickly if everyone did Conflict REVOLUTION and looked at the world that way, asking how they could contribute to the good of the whole.
But you don’t have to wait for anybody to do this. You can do it for yourself, and that’s all you need to be concerned about.
Barbara: That was curious. (laughs) Asking a question!
Robin: I was surprised that you asked a question.
Barbara: Do you have one?
Robin: I think it was answered in the channel with the slowing down part. I think I was more going to share my experience with that lately, if they wanted to expand on it a little bit.
The question was asked in the channel, and that was, when things get overwhelming, the mind takes over and says, “We have to do this, do that.” We speed up, and that creates more chaos. It’s almost counterintuitive to slow down.
That has helped me lately to give myself the space to process the Emotion and hear the Intuition, to hear the next step. Our minds will say, “You don’t have time to slow down,” but in reality, time is an illusion. It gives us the space to step out of time and expand the present moment, to bring that deep Emotion through, to suspend the mind so that it doesn’t freak out about taking the space and the time. It creates more of an expansion.
Lately I’ve been doing this, and people around me are saying, “Aren’t you worried? You haven’t done this, you haven’t done that!” I think there’s a bigger part of me that says, “The picture’s too big. I can’t see it. I’m going to slow down. I need to process this right now, so I’ll do that today, and the next step will show itself tomorrow.” That’s why I say that the question was very much answered.
Barbara: Thanks for sharing that. I agree that in that moment when we think we’re so busy, if we step out of time, it changes the whole thing. Suddenly—yeah, we’re still busy, but things are getting done. I personally find a great relief from just following my Intuition.
Robin: It’s such an act of self-love.
Barbara: It really is.
Robin: When they talk about feeling that sense of Compassion, just to expand the state for all of that to come there, more love, more Compassion, more Intuition, more peace.
0:49:26.9 Barbara: I was listening to a young man I went to see last night [Adam Sweeney] who was trying to explain his process, which was very much like Conflict REVOLUTION, and he called passion and emotion “excitement.” Once we step out of time, take some breaths, feel self-love, even though the tasks are not something you’d want to do the rest of your life, here it is in front of you, part of your life, you can get a little more excited about it. That certainly has to add to the entire experience and a lot of how the experience is shaped, to be manifest.
Robin: That’s true. In that moment, you can say, “Huh, that’s curious. Look at what just showed up in front of me.”
Barbara: Right. But we’re sure not taught to live this way.
Robin: Yes, we are. We’re taught and we’re practicing and we’re lab rats. We’re blessed. We are.
Barbara: Right, we are.
0:50:42.2 Sharon: Robin, can I ask you a question about what you said when you were talking about slowing down?
Sharon: Are you talking about slowing down your thinking in your mind? Does that translate into slowing down your physical actions as well?
Robin: I slow everything down. I stop making choices. I stop frantically doing busy things or feeling like I need to accomplish the 10 things on the list today. I slow down my breathing. I’ll even sit in mediation maybe for an hour.
Sharon: That was another question I had. OK, all right.
Robin: Things like that, where you would think, “I don’t have time for that.” But we have to make time for that, because it’s the important stuff. The little details, not as much. They’ll come out. And the other thing that Einstein said was to pick one or two things. I’ve been doing that, too. “OK, I can’t do 10 big things, because I need to sit in meditation and process this sadness right now.” After I’m done with that, my Intuition will tell me what big things I can cross off the list. It’s been a way of operating from Compassion and love first. And then what happens is that the stuff you delayed you were supposed to delay because there was something coming. I’ll share an example.
I’m in the process of moving from an island and going to a city. It’s overwhelming. I couldn’t make a choice of where to live in the city, what to do. I was sitting in mediation crying instead.
And then all of a sudden a wonderful woman showed up in my life and I’m able to rent a room in her house. She’s organizing a workshop that I teach in her living room. I couldn’t have seen any of that had I just frantically pushed through everything. Instead I slowed down for two weekends, what would seem like accomplishing nothing, but meditating and crying, and now I’ve got this beautiful thing happening. Sometimes you can’t see what’s coming, you can’t see the big picture.
Barbara: Sharon, did you have any questions?
Sharon: No, and I’m glad you asked your question. I have a delayed soaking-in time. The questions don’t come until later. I was happy that you asked the question you did. I’ll probably have to come back and listen to it again.
Barbara: It felt new to me, the voice.
Robin: You mean the answer felt new?
Barbara: No, the voice, when they said, “We’ve reached this new place of evolution” in the beginning. Like they were super-excited that this is the first group that they’ve done in this new state.
Robin: I felt that, too.
Barbara: And the voice was very distinctive, not one I’m real familiar with. Maybe that’s the deeper, richer, fuller voice of the collective, or maybe there’s some new personality that’s stepping up to the plate.
Robin: And you said you’re in a new place, too.
Barbara: True, that too. I saw that new place when I wrote the article about Jason’s death. When I was done with it, I realized that there was no insinuation of blame, none of what they were talking about, “We have to get justice done. This is despicable.” It was about, “Here’s the law. Here’s what happened. Police officers and military people don’t have interchangeable jobs. The police are supposed to de-escalate, the military is supposed to escalate.” There are all these factors. The officer who did it, who is he? For all intents and purposes, he’s just a normal guy. I could see that evolution in my writing, the articulation of that.
Party: We will bring this channel to a close. Once again, our gratitude knows no bounds in this work that we do together, all of us.
We want to encourage you to get small with yourself, get to the moment with yourself as much as you can. Discover what those moments hold for you. Learn about who you are through those moments.
Really expand your perception to be able to separate your deep emotion from your conscious thinking. See them. Experience them as two different organs, two different energies. Deal with them accordingly. And then listen for that intuitive impulse rising from your heart, impelling you to take that next step for the good of the whole, and study yourself.
From now till the end of the year, we think you’re going to have an opportunity to see in action what we’re suggesting. There is great positive, powerful change in the air, and a lot of this is housecleaning, awareness-raising. It’s never easy for humans to have their awareness raised. (laughs) It’s usually something that happens with kicking and screaming. But all of you have a chance to be the fish that throws itself up onto the land and changes that breathing.
It’s an exciting time, and we are so honored to be in service to you. So yes, go off, watch, and be amazed.
Welcome back to our 2017 RE-Boot Series! After an event-filled summer break of music, mayhem and a fall down the stairs, we’re back, reporting from Paris for #6. Looking forward to catching up and reconnecting with you and the Party. Hope you can join us. If not, watch for the download posting.
Barbara: Good morning. It’s Sunday, March 26, 2017. I am Barbara With. You are here with me and the Party of 12. Partyof12.com is where you can find all things Einsteinian from beyond the grave, news from the Party of 12, and of course information about Conflict REVOLUTION, our imagined Einstein’s miraculous process for world peace, one person at a time, starting with you—or me. I’ll start with me, you start with you.
My mission this year with my 12-part 2017 Re-Boot Series is to visit places where Einstein’s path, that we’ve channeled and researched and experimented with for the past decades, crosses paths with other knowledge and other bodies of knowledge. To that end, I was prepared to have a wonderful woman on the show today, Leslie Stewart, an author and a channel who wrote a book entitled Trust and Allow the Process of Life In-Joy! I was looking forward to doing today’s show on joy.
But something came up that prompted me to move her appearance to the April show. I did a few coaching sessions and had a conflict of my own that inspired me to devote this today’s show to presenting Conflict REVOLUTION 101, the most basic way to teach Conflict REVOLUTION, step-by-step instructions aimed at absolute beginners—people who have never heard this information before. Even though I have geared it for beginners, this will also help out the rest of us who have been doing this process ad infinitum, some of us literally for decades. It will help us to remember the power of being a perpetual beginner. Sometimes when we’re lost in overwhelming, uncomfortable feelings and our thoughts are out of control, one way to make the shift back into control of your own domain and to start the revolution is to go back to square one, to start at the beginning, review what you know, and take baby steps as if you’re a beginner.
My challenge with this is that the unified field theory and the maps of human consciousness that I have presented over these past decades represent an enormously complex system. It works sequentially. Describing how matter is made manifest one step at a time from nothing into everything is a very big undertaking. I’m so close to it that I don’t trust myself to know what’s necessary and what’s not, because I’ll always go deep. It’s my nature. It all seems necessary to me.
I called up two of my certified coaches, Cathy Kline in Columbus, Ohio, and Robin Cordova, on Bainbridge Island in Washington state, to help me craft a simple vision. They’ll be joining us in a while to share some of their own Conflict REVOLUTION stories. I asked them each two things. First: “What is the simplest way to explain Conflict REVOLUTION? What are the bare, minimal elements of the whole huge unified field theory and the maps of human consciousness that are needed in order to show someone how to do it effectively?” Second: “How do we as trainers inspire you who are learning it, when you are in those moments and the bad emotions are surging and your thoughts are out of control, to take a different step and make a different decision that will move you toward your revolution?” Because those moments of overwhelming emotion and out-of-control thoughts are the place where we do the work of Conflict REVOLUTION.
ConRev is all about catching yourself in the act of making a decision that is not good for you. It’s about doing something different in that moment. When we change our energy that deeply, we are helping to change the way our entire system operates. The more we make conscious decisions in those moments, the more we’re working for the good of the whole, first of all for us and then for the entire situation. Each time it becomes easier in those conflicted moments to not only decide to make a different choice to do something else, but then to do it. That’s what it’s all about.
After my discussion with Cathy and Robin, we concluded that the bottom line was, “Give them step-by-step instructions that are simple and easy to understand and then teach through example.” The best way I can inspire anyone to do Conflict REVOLUTION is to do it myself, get the miraculous results, and then share that with people who need inspiration. Because the truth is, in that moment you are the only one who can make that decision. I can’t get into your head and make you think different things. I can’t force you to breathe emotion through your body. Only you can make that decision in that moment, and those are the hardest moments in which to make them.
So much of our culture and the way that people have traditionally resolved conflict is sitting down with the person and saying, “We need to talk through our issues.” Sometimes that works, for a while. But it doesn’t get very deep. The object of Conflict REVOLUTION is helping each individual find peace within the self, and in doing that, to contribute on a global level to the collective consciousness of peace as well.
I have several conflicts, the original conflicts that excited me and made me want to do this. Something happened a few days ago with Cathy where she was in that state of overwhelming emotion and runaway thoughts. We did a revolution, and it was so remarkable that I decided to revamp the conflict I’m going to bring—although there are so many good ones to share—and I want to ask those of you who are listening, whether it’s live or after the fact, to bring a conflict of your own to this session. It doesn’t have to be any particular conflict. You can learn Conflict REVOLUTION using any conflict you want, but I like to advise people to bring one that entails another human being, because it’s a lot easier to look in the mirror of another human being and see yourself than it is to look in the mirror of, say, war or financial crisis. It’s not impossible. I have done every kind of conflict under the sun. But if you use somebody who’s in your life, it’ll give you a better opportunity to see yourself.
Get a pad and paper. You’ll be writing things down. You can work your conflict along with us. At the end, you’ll have your own action plan, something that tomorrow morning before you get out of bed you can have right there by your bedside. You can start your day with a prayer of gratitude—“Thank you for another amazing, miraculous day of life. I fully intend—” set your intention—“to watch myself today,” and here’s your action plan of what you will do, the decisions you will make. Also name your conflict. That is the beginning of creating what we call sound bites. Sound bites are essential because your imagination and your intellect and your reasoning can talk to you ad nauseam about whatever you’re obsessed over in a conflict. You can go on and on in your head. We all have done it. When we start to develop sound bites, we’re paring down meanings, getting to a simpler place. Naming it is an important piece. Every conflict for me is a case study. I can say, “Ah, the Headache Project!” or “I’m a Liar!” and I know the whole conflict. So name your conflict.
We’re going to start with step-by-step instructions. Based upon my conversations with Robin and Cathy, this is what we have come up with as the simplest way to understand Conflict REVOLUTION. The first piece is that this is one-sided work. This is not conflict resolution, where you sit down and make sure you have good sentence structure and tone and you look in people’s eyes and try to resolve something. It’s not that. This is one-sided work. In fact, the ground rule is: your domain is your responsibility. It is not your responsibility to take care of somebody else’s conflict, and someone else is not responsible for taking care of your conflict. Your domain is your responsibility.
The values that we use when we’re doing this one-sided work are:
To be nonjudgmental. Remember, this is a science experiment. It’s not a priest telling you you’re bad or good.
To have passion. In this life we have to train ourselves that we not only have the right to feel all of our feelings, but we have the responsibility to feel all of the emotion that is flowing through us. That’s what passion is. We’ll find out as we go forward that emotion is the creative juice of the manifestation of everything physical. But to us personally, it is our life force. It’s the first dimension in the building block of who we are.
To have creativity. Remember, this is a creative process, so we’re looking outside the box, we’re pushing ourselves to think in new ways, we’re canoodling with metaphors that will reveal themselves to us.
To have humor. If you can’t laugh at yourself, we will. You are free to laugh at me, because humor is so important in getting us out of a stuck place.
So when you find yourself being judgmental, shift over to a nonjudgmental point of view. One way to do that is, if you’re judging something to be bad, purposefully find the good in it. Or if you’re clinging to something that’s good, purposefully find the bad in it. Then you have the whole picture and you’re nonjudgmental. When you’re lacking passion, get in touch with emotion. That’ll get those juices flowing again. When you’re stuck, reach for your creativity.
This is the basic description that we’ll work with of who you are, the picture we’ll be painting. You have three human dimensions that work together to create your ability to have a human experience in the physical world. Think of it as a wave that starts at your feet, flows up through your body, all the way through the top of your head, and when it comes out there, it goes around again and starts again at your feet. There’s the flow of your life force. It’s like a string. The three human dimensions are Emotion, located in your solar plexus, Intuition, located in your heart or your chest area, and Intellect, located in your head.
Now you have three separate places that we’ll also begin to associate with those things so we can begin to separate those three human dimensions from one another. Because we have all been operating as if it’s just one big crazy mass of energy, and it’s hard to tell what Intellect is, what Emotion is. We’re thinking about a feeling, we’re thinking about a conflict, and we think we’re feeling it. There is some Emotion in there, there always is, but this will help us separate them and understand their roles clearly.
The last piece of this puzzle is what we call the Witness. That is the part of you that has the ability to step back and watch your Emotion, Intuition, and Intellect, to observe those three human dimensions. Maybe you’d call that the observer of self. Maybe you’re looking at your human self from your soul self. Maybe it might feel like dissociation. That Witness will help facilitate making decisions in those conflicted moments.
Very basically, Emotion, or feelings, in the solar plexus is not just what we typically think of as emotions—sadness, happiness, joy, anger. In my new book Einstein et al., there are two pages in nine-point type on Emotion. There’s a huge range of Emotion. We’ve been taught to only feel the good ones, and even that—I was never taught how to do that effectively. But in Conflict REVOLUTION we’ll learn how to feel the entire range of feelings. That’s a way to get the flow moving. We want to have a circular flow of our string constantly moving through us like water. Emotion is the fuel, the primordial soup, as it were, of energy that’s the beginning step of the creation of the physical world through our bodies, our perception of it. At that level there’s no thinking, no reasoning, no reasons why you feel this way, there’s nothing to do about it. There’s just pure, unadulterated Emotion.
As that flow moves up into the heart, where Intuition is situated, we have Emotion now becoming a voice. Our emotions guide us, and Intuition becomes the voice of what we call Compassion. In Conflict REVOLUTION, Compassion is the fifth fundamental force of the universe, the intelligence within us that is impelling the creation of the physical world—the garden, the earth—one step at a time, starting with zero and sequentially walking into the infinity of the universe. Compassion, among other things, impels us to work for the good of the whole system. You might call it God, Goddess, the universe. It is the life force that at its root is programmed to take care of all parts of the entire system, creating all parts of it.
Within you, the voice of Intuition is telling you the next step to take, the next decision to make that will be good for the whole situation that you’re in at that moment. It’s important to redefine Intuition here as something that first of all, everyone has as part of their functioning system, and secondly, is meant to tell you what to do in present moment. It’s always sending you signals: “Beat, heart. Breathe,” those kinds of subliminal impelling. It’s always telling you the next thing you can do that will be best for the whole situation. Making decisions for the good of the whole, that’s Compassion. You take care of yourself first and you look outside and see everything else that’s needed and you make a decision to the best of your ability that will benefit the whole situation. That’s what we’re looking for here.
It starts with the three human dimensions. When we understand how they all work together and we begin by taking care of ourselves, we come back to the physical world whole, aligned to Compassion, ready to be a peacemaker, ready to contribute to world peace, not just working from our ego or what we think should be intellectually.
You’ve got Emotion that flows up into your chest area and becomes Intuition, and it’s impelling you to take a step. When it flows up into the Intellect, that’s where all of the descriptions of the physical world lie. So within you you have Emotion that will be the chair. As it flows up into your heart and your Intuition says to that part of you, “Go be a chair,” and it gets into your Intellect, there’s a description. It starts out, “I am a green chair sitting in the corner in Wisconsin in 2017.” But then it flips, like the lens of an eye or a revolution, to, “That is a chair in the corner.” That is a very basic explanation of how these three dimensions work. All of this is projected through and perceived by your body. Even though the chair is in the corner over there, it begins within you.
What happens in the Intellect, however, is that imagination comes in, rationalization, patterns of thinking you don’t even know you have that were drilled into you as a child, as a baby, even. And for those of you who believe in past lives, sometimes we have thoughts, feelings, senses, memories, and energies of past lives coming through us, infiltrating our thinking process. So when you are triggered by a negative emotion, you also trigger degenerative thoughts that wed to that emotion, and that becomes a reality.
I was working with a woman the other day who was saying, “I’m so mad because S. will never, ever, ever stay one minute longer for her shift to help out. She just won’t do it.” I said, “Did you ask her?” “Well, no.” “Why don’t you?” So she called her. “Oh, yes, I’d be happy to!” How long would that woman have walked around with an angry emotion married to the thought that S. never does anything? How does that affect her relation with S.?
Our job here is to keep all emotions flowing, listen to the intuitive impelling, and then Intellect, instead of rationalizing and projecting and getting all clogged up with imagination, is meant to hear that impelling of Intuition and make the decision to take action to fulfill the intuitive impelling. Because here’s the catch: free will operates in the intellectual arena. You don’t make a decision with your solar plexus or with your heart. You implement decision-making in your intellectual area. That’s where free will takes place. Your Intuition can be telling you, “Rest,” but your Intellect can be saying, “No, I can’t rest. I don’t have time to rest. If I rest, bad things will happen.” You make the decision to keep working. That is the basic kind of conflict that we first resolve within ourselves—and it changes everything.
We’ll hear some stories in a minute from the trainers about how they’ve used it and the miraculous outcomes they’ve had. I could write a whole case study book about the miraculous outcomes when we do this work. When I say “miracle,” I mean facilitating a result that I could not have facilitated by going directly into the arena of the conflict. I could not have facilitated this outcome that came up had I sat down with my client and talked to the issues. That’s the miracle. Those are the miracles we’ll create.
The Witness part of you also operates in the intellectual arena. It’s stepping back, taking notes. “Look at me thinking I can’t do that. Look at me being judgmental. Look at all that deep anxiety in my solar plexus. Listen, there’s Intuition telling me what to do.” The Witness, the observer, has the ability to inspire you to make those different decisions. When you know what decisions you should be making, it doesn’t guarantee that you’ll make them, but it’s a much easier step to be inspired to make them.
With all that said, I’ll share my conflict. It’s called “Assumptions and Miscommunications.” This will be an epic conflict for the rest of my life because I learned so much through it. The one I was originally going to do was a woman I was coaching with a miraculous outcome. She named hers “Tiptoeing through the Minefields of Facebook.” I thought, “Raise your hand if you’ve never been triggered by something somebody said on Facebook.” Of course, no one has a hand up. So we’ll focus on this and then bring on Robin and Cathy in a minute.
I was coaching Maxinne one-to-one on Conflict REVOLUTION. Here’s something I learned a long time ago: when I coach, I need to have my own conflict that I’m focused on, because there’s a 75% chance that when I coach someone, I will be triggered. I learned this when Teresa McMillian, one of the co-founders and co-authors, my dear friend, years ago finally decided to use Conflict REVOLUTION to address her migraines, which were frequent and horrible. She asked me if I would help coach her. We called her conflict “The Headache Project.” I quickly discovered that I was being triggered by my sister. My sister and I had a lifelong conflict. She gave me a headache. So I could call it the “Headache Project,” and we could get a two-fer.
This is what happened with Maxinne. She has a massage therapy business, and because of some limitations she’s going through right now, she can’t do massages. Her revenue is dependent on the massage therapists who work through her office. She gets a cut of that. We were doing the training. She had an active conflict. She understood that she was working to learn how to make decisions for the good of the whole. She arranged for her massage therapist Judy to have a reading with me. I asked, “Phone or Skype?” She said, “I want to come in person.” I don’t do many readings in person any more, I don’t think it’s necessary, but I honored it because she was Maxinne’s friend.
We made an appointment. The only time that we could do it was if she came to where I was staying at 4:00 and we were done by 5:30 because my hostess was coming home and there was no privacy to do the reading. At 10:00 the morning of the reading, Maxinne got a request for a massage that afternoon that would have put Judy to my place at 4:30 or 5:00. She texted me and said, “Can you move the reading? Can she get there at 5:00?” I said, “No, I can’t, but I can do it by phone.” And I thought, understanding what was going on, that they would definitely take the walk-in traffic and we could reschedule by phone. In my mind that was what was for the good of the whole. So I said, “Have her call me, we’ll reschedule. We’ll do it by phone. It’s no big deal.”
I didn’t hear from anyone, and I just assumed that that’s what they did, because money was the big trigger. She needed money. “Yeah, get money, let’s be abundant, this is wonderful!” So I changed my plans. At 4:00 I was walking out the door, and a woman was walking up and down the sidewalk. Turned out to be Judy, right on time—early, in fact. I got triggered in that moment. I told her, “I thought you had canceled.” She said no. I did the reading. When I asked what she wanted, she didn’t seem as if she were in emotional distress. She just wanted to see what channeling was. That triggered me a bit, like I was on display. But it was a beautiful reading. I did my quick revolution and really enjoyed the reading. She was buoyed by it.
Later that night, I got an email from Maxinne. She was pissed. She said, “Why could you not have moved her appointment to 5:00? I just lost $80? How is that good for the whole?”
That’s my conflict.
Right now, I want to bring on Robin Cordova, who is also going to share some of her work and her conflict, and then we’ll do ours together, and then we’ll bring Cathy on and she’ll also share.
Good morning, Robin, how are you today?
Robin: Good morning, Barbara, I’m great! Thank you.
Barbara: I want to ask you a question before we get into your conflict. How do you experience the Witness? When I do my Witness, I feel schizophrenic, like I have two voices in my head. But I’m OK with it, because I know what it is. How do you experience the Witness?
Robin: That’s a good visual. I experience it as a healthy split. I know that part of me is splitting off to step outside of myself and pay attention to what’s happening around me, listening to my thoughts and my feelings. I try to make sure to ground myself as well.
Barbara: Ah, good idea! How do you do that?
Robin: I use the circle visualization that you explained in the opening. That’s the most powerful thing when I feel off-center or woozy from becoming a Witness. I ground with that circle visualization that you guided us there at the beginning.
Barbara: Great. What conflict are you bringing?
Robin: A long-time coworker and I, someone I’ve been working with for about 15 years, we live in different states. When we work together, most of our contact is via phone. Sometimes we’ll be in person together, but primarily it’s via phone. We architect and sell mission-critical computer systems, and often our projects take months. They’re difficult. There are a lot of obstacles. In my opinion, the only way to get through them is to be optimistic, to have perseverance, to be grateful for things that are going well, to stay focused and hopeful and work toward solutions. That’s the only way we’ll get through.
Robin: We were going through about a year where things weren’t going well. We had a corporate customer where things were crashing. When systems crash, corporations lose millions of dollars every minute, and it can become quite stressful. When we’d get on the phone, instead of trying to focus on what went well and how we could solve the problem, he wanted to rant and complain and rage and express his frustration at things that were out of his control. Often, especially during this period when we were going through a difficult time, we were talking daily. He’d spend an extra 20 minutes on the phone with me beyond the purpose of the call just to dump all of his negative emotions on me. I’d end up switching into a coaching rescue mode. There’s a difference between coaching and rescuing.
Robin: Coaching is a healthy function; rescuing is an unhealthy function. I was finding myself in the unhealthy function of trying to rescue him and bring him back up emotionally and take on more than my responsibility and trying to fix things and make it OK. I’d hang up zapped of energy. I’ll get to the emotion when we’re ready for that part.
Barbara: Did you name your conflict?
Robin: Yes: “Mr. Downer.”
Barbara: (laughs) That’s good! So we’ve got your “Mr. Downer” and my “Assumptions and Miscommunications.” We’ve laid them out. For those of you who are doing this at home, you can start to see as we move forward what we’ll do with all this information. We’ll identify the three human dimensions within the conflict. It doesn’t matter where you start putting your matrix together. This will be your action plan when you get done. I wouldn’t suggest starting with Intuition. That’s hard, especially if you have an active conflict and you have emotions and thoughts going on. It’s hard to winnow out what the intuitive message is. I’ll start with the intellectual sound bites. The reason we create sound bites is because the imagination and the Intellect can run crazy wild all over you, and you get lost in it.
Barbara: We’re trying to pare down the whole story of the conflict into one or two sentences about what is really bugging you here with the root of the problem with Mr. Downer. What is my problem with Maxinne? You get them so they’re small so a) you can remember them and b) you can call upon them in those times when we get to the process a little later on.
Barbara: For me, [the conflict with Maxinne] was a very easy conflict to parboil down to intellectual sound bites, and one of the great things for me was how quickly I did it. It happened after I stopped. My intellectual sound bites were, “She’s making all kinds of assumptions. She’s not communicating very well.” For a brief time, my Intellect went to, “You know, she never called me back to confirm. She assumed that I did this and that.” But quickly, those two sound bites helped guide me to the next step. My Emotion was irritation, anger, confusion, frustration, impatience. For those of you who are doing this, when you’re trying to identify the emotion of it, don’t go into the reasons why you think you feel this. That’s an intellectual activity. We are looking just to identify and isolate the emotion around this conflict. They should be one-word answers. Robin, how did you get to your intellectual sound bites?
Robin: That’s a good reminder, to separate the Intellect and just focus on the Emotion. I’ll start there. I was feeling furious and outraged and resentful, quite frankly, drained of energy, and that’s what made me feel resentful. Exasperated. I would assign fairly strong emotions in this particular conflict.
Barbara: What about the intellectual sound bite?
Robin: The intellectual sound bite was, “He’s so pessimistic. He’s always hopeless. He brings me down and drains me. And he doesn’t care about the burden he puts on me.”
Barbara: Oh, gosh, I’ve had sound bites like that. (laughs) “They just don’t understand me!”
Robin: (laughs) Exactly!
Barbara: When we’re trying to find the Intuition, it’s a little trickier. Sometimes you can try to think of what Jesus would tell you to do, what a great spiritual leader would tell you to do, what your best friend who knows you and loves you and is kind would tell you to do, what your caring mother would tell you to do if you can’t figure it out. Oftentimes we get into places where we have intense emotions and thoughts about the other person, and it’s hard to separate those out.
Barbara: For me, very quickly, I heard, “Look at yourself.” It’s a form of, “Do the work, do the revolution, do your process.” Because I know that when I do the process, I get the miracle. What will inspire me to do that process when I’m in that place? That was to look at myself and to be kind. Those were the two intuitive messages. And remember also that Intuition is a small, declarative statement that will tell you to do something and that it’s about the next step to take. We can’t figure out what Intuition will tell you to do when you get into a situation. It’s all about present moment and what that Intuition is picking up about the situation and what’s good for the whole. Here we’ll imagine that it’ll work that way, but just understand, as you go forward with your Intuition, that it’s all about what will happen in present moment, not what will happen next week. What was your Intuition telling you?
Robin: There are two branches that came out of this. The first nugget of Intuition I received was to set up boundaries. That was the very first thing I needed to do. It was not my responsibility to make him happy. That was a direct action that I had to take for this conflict, but it wasn’t the full revolution.
Barbara: We’ll get to that in a minute.
Robin: Initially, my Intuition said, “Set up boundaries.” It was a nugget of three words. That was my first step.
Barbara: So now we have our matrix. We have our intellectual sound bites. We have identified what our emotions are. We did some conjecture about what Compassion would want us to do for the good of the whole. I’ll introduce Cathy in a minute, but I want to get to two things about the intellectual sound bites. Our next step is to revolve those sound bites back onto us. “I had poor communication. I was making assumptions.” In this case you would revolve yours to figure out that you had hopelessness, right?
Robin: Yes. And I had to find where I was also pessimistic, which originally was, “I’m not pessimistic! I’m the most optimistic person I know!” (laughs) I’ll get to that more later.
Barbara: For those of you doing this at home, create that revolved sound bite and have that ready. I want to bring on Cathy right now and have her share some things that went on, and then we’ll all rev this together and give you an idea of how it works across the board. Good morning, Cathy!
Cathy: Good morning! I’m doing great, how are you?
Cathy: I would like to share that I loved how Robin talked about the rescuer and the coach, because it’s so easy for me to slip from one to the other. As far as Conflict REVOLUTION for me, when we first learned this years ago, the thing I learned that helped me the most was that I was talking about and thinking about my feelings versus feeling and breathing them through my body. And understanding the differences, a clear definition about Emotion, Intellect, and Intuition helped me to go forward and made my life much easier. Barbara spoke about leading by example. I had an experience yesterday that was so interesting. I have a conflict that I’ve named “Being Blocked from All Directions.” That’s where I had a Con Rev within a Con Rev. The other one is called “No Longer Being Here.” That’s about my daughter Lori and my son-in-law Craig.
Cathy: Yesterday morning I was working with my friend Tammy getting to a core issue that was preventing her from manifesting the money, the job, the home, the man. She felt like she was being blocked from all directions. We were going through the process of Conflict REVOLUTION, and she stopped and said, with much passion, “You’re blocking me also. Why do you do that? I’ve watched you receiving help from all your other friends, and yet you’ve blocked every offer I give you. I offered to cook a meal for you, do the dishes, help you during chemo, but you deny my help. Why do you do that?” That was a case where when you talk about how you can come into Conflict REVOLUTION at any level, I’m not even sure I had a conscious sound bite, but I went right into the feeling and the breathing.
Barbara: Because you were obviously triggered?
Cathy: Yes. “What is my truth? What can I tell her? What can I answer her?” I didn’t want to hurt her feelings. I had the back story. I told myself that the reason for not letting her help me was that she hadn’t been through cancer or chemo and she was unable to understand and give me the support I needed. But right there, I went into feeling and breathing so I could get to my intuitive message.
Barbara: What was it?
Cathy: “Tell her the truth.” And at that moment, the truth came to me: “I don’t trust you.” To be able to tell her—because we had a past experience that was a misunderstanding. She thought I was sleeping with her boyfriend and sent terrible text messages demanding that I confess to her. She was so convinced that I was guilty that it got really ugly. We had become friends again, but I had kept her at arm’s length and refused to accept any help she was offering me because I was so angry that I didn’t trust her enough to let her all the way in. That was so empowering. And then talk about leading by example: in the middle of coaching her through her conflict, I had to stop and feel and breathe to help us go forward.
Barbara: Let’s leave that one right there and go to the one we worked on.
Cathy: Friday I had a call from my daughter. She was crying. She was afraid that her husband was dead. Her phone had died. She had to borrow a phone to call me. There was no way for her to go home. She had left for work that morning and couldn’t find him anywhere. He had been threatening, “You’ll miss me when I’m gone.” She had to go to work. She checked the house, the barn, couldn’t find him anywhere. She goes to work and she’s devastated all day long because she doesn’t know whether he’s alive or dead. That’s why I called that conflict “No Longer Being Here.”
Cathy: I dropped what I was doing and drove over and checked on him and found out that he was still there. He had hid from her that morning when she left for work to make her feel bad. He figured once he was dead, she would miss him when he was gone, and by hiding from her, it gave her a taste of that.
Cathy: I was so overwhelmed with how to deal with that the next day that I had to go back to Conflict 101 and call you, Barbara, and ask for some guidance through this because I was so frustrated myself I couldn’t get my sound bites. When we finally got to them, they were, “He was good at manipulating. He wasn’t helping the situation. And what if he wasn’t here any more?”
Cathy: Those are my sound bites.
Barbara: What was the Emotion? This is really intense.
Cathy: Completely overwhelmed, frustrated. This goes back to how I want to be the rescuer, so I go in and try to fix the situation. Overwhelmed and frustrated. It was so overwhelming I couldn’t think clearly.
Barbara: When we get overwhelmed, sometimes we have all the feelings super-sized.
Barbara: What intuitive message was in this conflict?
Cathy: I had to ask for help. That’s why I called and asked for guidance through this. Even though I automatically know this process and it comes to me so quickly and I go through it without even consciously knowing what I’m doing sometimes, this one blocked me so much that when I stopped to feel and breathe, the intuitive message was, “Ask for help.”
Barbara: It’s interesting, as an aside, how these two conflicts involve asking for help.
Cathy: (laughs) Yes!
Barbara: When Cathy and I talked in the morning, originally we were going to talk about the layout of the show, but then she came in this state and asked me to coach her. I shared with her the content I had already formulated talking about with Robin, and we thought it was a wonderful opportunity to show in real time that this really works. You were the guinea pig, in that place where emotions were intense and thoughts were out of control. You were having the conflict and we were breaking down the pieces at the same time. Oftentimes when somebody’s in a training session or a workshop, they’re not actively engaged. It’s not a triage moment. It’s an intellectual story. But you were in that moment. When we got to the place where we said, “Let’s imagine what the Intuition would have told you to do,” all we had to do was look back and identify what that was, and it was, “Ask for help.” And you asked for help. It’s beautiful how Conflict REVOLUTION becomes an operating system, and not only does your Intuition tell you to ask for help, but then your Intellect dials the phone to get the help. You don’t have to say, “I don’t need help.”
Cathy: And yes, thank you for helping me define this, because I’m still in the middle of processing all of that. It just happened this weekend. Just trying to explain it to someone, I appreciate your help in clarifying what we’re going through with this. And it works.
Barbara: And also—and I think Robin will address this as well—my conflict happened very quickly and was revolved and resolved quickly, and I quickly got to the miraculous place that I’ll share in a minute. But more often than not, it takes time to do this. In talking about, say, Mr. Downer, Robin, now that you’ve had the revolution back to yourself, I think we need to share what the process is that we now do. There are two components to it. One is to deal with Emotion in a new way: to breathe it, not to analyze it. The other is to change the thought to which the Emotion is marrying itself to create your reality and then change the thinking process. These are two big things. These aren’t easy to do. Tell us about processing Mr. Downer.
Robin: It went off into two branches. That’s why I wanted to share that conflict. It will help people to see that sometimes we have to work things in multiple ways. With him, I had to take action steps to get that relationship to a healthy place. That required setting up boundaries and seeing that my kindness is helpful for people, but that there’s a shadow side to kindness, too. We let ourselves be taken advantage of, we feel that we have to take responsibility for someone else’s happiness.
Robin: For him, I needed to set up healthy boundaries and take myself out of that responsibility because I needed my energy to solve the technical issues of what was going on. It wasn’t my responsibility to prop him up. But then I had to step back into the Witness and work with the deeper sound bites, which were the pessimism and hopelessness. At first I couldn’t see it in my life. There are so many areas in my life where I’m very optimistic. I had to step back further into the Witness and ask the greater part of me, “Show me where I’m pessimistic.” I think oftentimes when we’re not seeing it we can ask that greater part of ourselves to show us, and then step further into the Witness and watch what comes up and look for deeper intuitive messages.
Robin: Over time, I found that it was in the intimate relationship part of my life. Not my work life, not my life as a mother, a coach, an athlete. All of those things I’m very hopeful and optimistic in. But when I think about going out on a date or feeling that I was somehow going to be successful in a romantic relationship in my life, I wasn’t hopeful. I was pessimistic. That’s where my work was.
Barbara: That’s a great illustration of why conflicts are so hard to address. When you see something like this, you realize that his trigger of you into this place was your energy calling you to look way over here at a place that had nothing to do with him. How long do you think this went on?
Robin: I talked with you about it several times during this period, and I’m a year in right now. It was right at this time last year when I realized I need to set boundaries. It took some time to work with the Emotion, to realize where the pessimism was, and to come up with an action plan. I’m just now starting to make some headway in both a new relationship with my coworker—because I still have to work with him—and a new relationship with my own optimism and hopefulness in the romantic relationship area of my life. It takes time and patience and being committed to self-love and self-compassion. That’s crucial for this work.
Barbara: You brought up this question, and then Cathy brought it up, and as you were talking I was thinking about some conflicts I have about when we want to be nice. I had a year-long conflict called “The Kitchen Dishes.” My roommate was leaving dishes in the sink. You would have thought I could just say, “Hey, can you clean up your dishes?” But I couldn’t. I was being hammered in my brain about how small I was that I wouldn’t just wipe off this bowl for her, thinking I wasn’t being nice enough, I was so selfish. While you were trying to set those boundaries, were you struggling with some of those kinds of voices?
Robin: Definitely! Having to do things I wouldn’t normally do, such as let his calls go to voicemail so that I could listen to the message and stay focused on doing a good job with just the technical part. My job isn’t to prop him up emotionally, it’s to work the issues. I didn’t have to spend 20 extra minutes on the phone working through his emotion and then be so drained that I couldn’t do my job well.
Barbara: Getting back to the moments where we’re feeling Emotion, we have the Intuition. “I’m going to set some boundaries.” You let it roll to voicemail, where you were making a decision to set a boundary, to do things differently, but there’s anxiety, shame, and thoughts about how you’re not a nice person.
Barbara: This is why it can take a year or more sometimes, and this is one reason why I was inspired to do this show, because Maxinne came back after her first night of feeling and breathing and noticing these terrible thoughts, and she said, “I was feeling and breathing all night and nothing changed.”
Robin: And then she gets into a cycle of being hard on herself.
Barbara: Yes. This is our pattern. But with her, I said that there might not be a change in that moment, but what’s different is, you’re observing yourself now. That’s the first step. When you observe and experiment, it changes. The very fact that she’s observing it is a beginning step.
Robin: Yes. We have to honor the process, not the results, praise ourselves for the process. Like you’ve said many times, we are building a new operating system. It’ll take time. We’re reworking our brains, our thinking process. To learn to stop, to feel, to breathe, to step into the Witness, to honor the small steps is so crucial.
There’s another thing you’ve always said that was very helpful, too: using the question “Is this regenerative or degenerative?” When you get a moment of, “Oh, I’m not kind enough. This feels awkward,” when we’re growing, it will feel awkward, because we’re doing something different, so we’ll feel a little bit awkward. Ask yourself, “Is this a regenerative or a degenerative step?” If it’s regenerative, it’s probably good for the whole.
Barbara: Yes. In this instance, the phone rings and you see it’s your coworker, you let it go to voicemail, which is making a decision for the good of all, but you’re still feeling bad, thinking bad thoughts, but you’ve made that decision.
Robin: Good point. That happens in the free will. “This feels awkward because you pride yourself on doing a good job and not letting people down.” But you’re only stopping the degenerative part. I was still planning to hear the voicemail and respond to what was needed, but I didn’t have to put myself on the phone for 20 minutes in a degenerative state.
Barbara: Right. And in the case of my “Kitchen Dishes” conflict, after a year of it, I was embarrassed to talk about it to anybody who knows Conflict REVOLUTION. When I finally got the aha moment and the miracle, I was talking to my sister about it, and she reminded me that when I was little, my mother used to work long hours, and I would clean up the whole kitchen. She would come home after a 12-hour workday and find the one thing I didn’t do and yell at me.
Barbara: And when I got that, I was able to go back to my roommate and start the conversation, “Hey, would you mind if we—?” She got a little defensive, and suddenly I’m weeping and we are having the best conversation! She said, “Don’t ever, ever, ever not tell me these things.” So we built trust, and it was all divine timing. Since then our relationship has deepened so much that I don’t want her to go. I used to be like, “I’m glad I have a roommate, I love her, but I wish I lived alone.” Now I think, “No! Don’t leave me!” (laughs)
Barbara: Cathy, tell me what happened after we talked and you had the thing happen with Tammy. What about the conflict with your son-in-law?
Cathy: Let me close up the conflict we were working called “Being Blocked in All Directions.” My question was, “What is my truth?” So “What is my truth with Tammy?” follows into “What is my truth with my family?” Not only did my being asked to tell her the truth—that I didn’t trust her and why I didn’t—help open up the tensions and the blocks in my relationship with Tammy, but it helped her. We did more Con Rev on her story, and she had a breakthrough to realize that in the incident where she felt like I and everybody else were blocking her, this is a core issue. She’s feeling people blocking her from all directions from her abundance. Maybe that will be the change and she’ll open up those blocks and start healing on a new level so she can get her abundance on all levels.
Cathy: Going back to “What is my truth?,” when I come back to the story with Craig and Lori, maybe Craig was threatening to commit suicide, and instead of my being so angry and frustrated with this “evil” man, what if he’s the person who is showing Lori that she can be a different way so she no longer wants to commit suicide but wants to figure out how to get through her life without so much conflict? The fact that he is threatening and she is saying, “No, don’t do this,” that’s their conflict. So I’m thinking all along that this is their problem, when my truth is, my biggest fear and my deepest core issue is my fear of dying, of no longer being there.
Cathy: Going through that, I feel like I’m able to look at my issues of dying. My first husband was threatening to kill me, and now chemo is threatening to kill me, cancer is threatening to kill me, so how do I get what I want in life? I’m realizing that maybe I don’t need cancer any more to get what I want out of life. I’m still processing all of this.
Barbara: Yeah, wow!
Cathy: You can see how this all ties together! All this weekend I was like, “Whoa!” (laughs)
Barbara: A back story is that you’ve been dealing with Lori, who is suicidal, and she’s just recently decided that she wants to live and she’s been struggling to establish a life for herself and making better decisions. Craig is basically committing a slow suicide in front of everyone.
Cathy: Thank you for articulating that!
Barbara: And you and I talked about how Craig is Lori’s—as Carlos Castaneda used to call it—“petty tyrant.” He is the impetus who is pushing her, giving her the platform to rise above that behavior in herself. He’s playing an important role for her right now, even though they may not end up married. He might kill himself. He might not. You’re seeing Lori changing her life, obviously influenced by being raised watching her father trying to kill her mother and do harm to her. She’s breaking that pattern, and now it’s coming back to you, when you’re on chemo for cancer. We’ve done some work since you were diagnosed and chose to get chemo. That was breathtaking, because I know you want to live. But it seemed like when we revolved—and now we’ll get to the last revolution of the sound bites—“What if he’s not here any more? What if you’re not here any more? I want to be here.”
Barbara: “I want to live.”
Cathy: Like I said, I was thinking it was all their problem. I didn’t realize what core issue of my own I was bringing to the surface.
Cathy: Very powerful!
Barbara: Yes! Going back to my quick conflict, “I’m miscommunicating. I’m making assumptions.” When I asked myself what assumptions I was making and where I was not communicating well, oh, my gosh! First of all, I assumed that Maxinne and Judy canceled the appointment. I didn’t communicate well on why Judy couldn’t have come at 5:00. When I said to the universe, “Show me now as I move forward where I make assumptions,” I saw that I make assumptions all day long!
At that moment, every time I started to make an assumption about Maxinne or Judy, I stopped and said, “Wait a minute. Show me what the answer to this question is. Why did we have to do it in person? I assumed that Judy was curious and wanted to take advantage of—no! Why?” And then I realized that she had never seen a channel. A lifelong goal of hers was to be in the presence of someone who channels. She’s heard about them. She’s read them. Maxinne has told her, and now here’s a woman she trusts, because Maxinne is one of her best friends, and it’s really important for her to get there at 4:00 to be in the same space because this may not come again.
Barbara: When I realized that, without making an assumption about why she wanted it to be in-person, it came to me. Oh, so even though I thought it was best for the whole if they took the money, that extra money she would have made wasn’t nearly as important as getting to that appointment to be in the presence of a channel. This was like a treasure hunt. There was no shame involved, no degenerative voice in my head saying, “What’s wrong with you? You always make assumptions!” There was no icky feeling. There was the joy of discovery. And by the next day, Maxinne, too, was observing and making different decisions and thinking different thoughts and feeling and breathing, and we were able to put together all of our assumptions, and we got the big picture. We said, “Look at this! We never would have been able to do this without Conflict REVOLUTION!”
Barbara: And then it continued when I went to New Orleans and my friend never called me back. I could use this, not make assumptions, not respond, and the long and short of it was, I had her phone blocked and I didn’t even know it! I could have done a big thing about her failings, but I didn’t. I had a great time, even though she wasn’t there.
Barbara: Let’s go to Robin. When you found those places in your love life where you were pessimistic and hopeless, where did that take you?
Robin: That’s the beauty of Conflict REVOLUTION: you often end up solving something that’s very deep and meaningful. That’s why the Emotion is so strong. In my case, I had to look at how I build up hopefulness in my life and realize that this is something I truly valued and wanted in my life and had not been successful in. That was sad. That was creating a sense of hopelessness. Pessimistic thinking is often aligned with feeling personally flawed. In my case I was feeling unworthy and unlovable. It sent me back to doing some inner child healing work for being hopeful. I then worked towards setting some goals, like we talked about in January, setting goals and pathways that were achievable for me and that worked for me. I’m still working on these things, but I’m much more hopeful and optimistic now because I could see the problem clearly, which I might not have been able to do without the Conflict REVOLUTION process.
Barbara: Without Mr. Downer?
Robin: Yeah, without Mr. Downer!
Barbara: Bless him!
Robin: And that’s where we have to ask how we can be grateful. I just want to say, Cathy, you’re so brave to come on the show and talk about these vulnerable things that you’re right in the middle of.
Cathy: Thank you.
Robin: I want to acknowledge that, because I have been working on this conflict that I’m sharing for a year. I’m excited for you and the beautiful things that will unfold. I’m busy with the work now, coming back to going into the Witness. How is this going? Am I feeling and breathing and paying attention to those thoughts? Not letting myself tell myself I’m flawed and unworthy and unlovable?
Cathy: Thank you, Robin. For me, the process of Con Rev is amazingly powerful. When we go forward creating our lives, my main goal is to consistently ask to be aware. I want to be aware of when I’m not telling the truth to other people and especially to myself. I want to be aware when I’m feeling fear and sorry for myself and afraid of not being here any more, to be able to step back and be the Witness, the observer who can see when I’m cheating myself out of a lovely life because of all my bullshit.
Barbara: What was interesting about our work yesterday was when you said, “This cancer has caused me to ask for more help, and I’m finding out how loved I am.”
Cathy: It’s so huge. I don’t have to create cancer to know that people love me and care about me. I have been given so many gifts, from emotional support to money to gifts to food to people helping me, driving me to my appointments. I lost my 12-year-old granddaughter to cancer last year. I went through depression that I didn’t realize I was going through, feeling like I didn’t have any purpose in life any more, not realizing why, not realizing I was in depression. I was pulling myself away from the world and not doing anything or going anywhere. Creating the cancer has opened me up to realizing, “Wow, I don’t need to have an illness to go forward with my goals.”
Barbara: And when you were describing all the things you were gaining from having the cancer, my response was, “I have all those things, and I don’t have cancer. I feel so loved.”
Cathy: I know!
Barbara: That was sort of an Aha! for both of us.
Cathy: Yes, yes! We all want to be loved and accepted and adored and cradled and happy! (laughs)
Barbara: Have you created any kind of action plan from our work going forward about wanting to live?
Cathy: The basic one is that sometimes I need to breathe and remember to step back into my Witness and observe what I’m doing. As I go forward, I choose to be more aware of when I am not doing the things that I want to do, like telling the truth and being honest with myself and allowing myself to go out and create the love and all the joy that I’m getting without being sick. Those are my steps going forward.
Barbara: In our matrix, the action plan, the last step of the sound bites we’re writing down, has those intellectual sound bites defining what we need to do in order to address the original issue. For me, with “Assumptions and Miscommunications,” my action plan is based on my Intuition, which said, “Look at yourself.” My plan going forward is that I’m going to watch where I make assumptions and where I don’t communicate quite as well as I could. As I told you, this is going down in the history of revs, because there are so many things in that one week where I didn’t make assumptions, where I made sure to take that extra step in communication and step back and think, “Have I told everybody everything? Do I need to tell anybody anything else?” And when I find places where I’m not communicating or I make an assumption, there’s no shame. There’s no mentally berating myself. It’s like, “Oh, look, it’s me making assumptions again.”
Cathy: The beauty of you and Robin and me all sharing with each other is that I look at yours and Robin’s sound bites and goals for going forward, and I see how I can now apply those to me. It applies to all of us.
Barbara: Yes. When I do this in a workshop, everyone has a Post-It note on the wall and I write all the emotions at the bottom in red and go all around the room, and when we’re done, you see that it doesn’t matter how different the story line is. My story line from Robin’s story line and especially from your story line and T.’s story line, it’s the same conflicts. It’s the universal emotions that do not get embraced and loved and moving through the flow: anger, depression, sadness, frustration—all the bad stuff is trapped in us, and it becomes cancer. It becomes excessive weight, depression, externally it is separations within families, conflicts within the community, worldwide conflict.
Barbara: We are working at the root level. Listening to both of your conflicts, I’m finding great fodder for my own continued revolutions. Robin?
Robin: Agreed. We all make assumptions. That’s a good one, too! (laughs)
Barbara: It’s so elemental. I’m so grateful to M. We’re coming to the end, but I wanted to ask you: boiling it down into a basic presentation, what do you think is the best way to help people untrain themselves to reject the bad emotions?
Robin: For me, I remind myself that when I’m triggered with Emotion, the first thing I tell myself is, “Don’t have a knee-jerk reaction.” When I get triggered I say, “Oh, there’s work to do.” It creates a new instant response to whatever emotion is happening. I’ve even trained myself to do that with intense joy, because intense joy, the people who run off in Las Vegas have equally had a knee-jerk reaction to extreme joy that may not be good for the whole. With any emotion that’s coming through us, we can stop and say, “I have work to do.” That’s where I begin, and then I remember the process. “Feel and breathe.” I follow the training, the process.
Barbara: Particularly because, having known you this long, it’s been challenging for you to access deep emotion.
Cathy: (laughs) Yes! You asked how we would encourage others. At one time when most of us would take a bad emotion when we were feeling it and tell people, “Don’t feel that way,” when you see someone crying and expressing an uncomfortable emotion. I’m able now to allow them and myself, because I didn’t used to be good at crying at all, to feel those “bad” emotions, because all emotions can lead us some place else. We encourage each other to feel the good and the bad emotions and move them through and then take that—like, if I’m feeling sad, I can’t feel like being happy immediately, but I can take the next step up to whatever emotion makes me feel a little bit better and then a little bit better. Every time I process the ConRev I need to breathe. I breathe to get into my Witness. I breathe to find my truth. I breathe to find my sound bite. Just remembering to feel and breathe has been so powerful to me.
Barbara: Me, too. I want to add an ending to my own conflict. Shortly after or during this time, I had a conflict with my sister—and I was Maxinne! I wrote an email to my sister that sounded just like hers. I sent it off and immediately started to feel and breathe, and I’m so grateful for bringing Conflict REVOLUTION to my family. The sister who triggered me was the one from “The Headache Project.” Long story short, my other sister was involved as well, and she said, “This is not a conversation for email.” So I called her, and she was wonderful. She was triggered, too, but she returned Conflict REVOLUTION to me. She knew how to do it. And pretty soon I was crying, she was crying. She also had something that was coming up. So I waited for a few days and I kept getting Intuition nudging me, “Call the other one.”
Barbara: I was a little less excited, because she traditionally would read me the riot act. But she was also wonderful, so loving and calm. She explained everything. We had a wonderful talk, and we’ll get together when I get home. So you can even act not for the good of the whole and it can come out for the good of the whole.
Barbara: Is there anything else either of you wants to add before we close this and let people go off and think about this and digest it?
Cathy: Thank you, Robin and Barb. When we went through what happened this weekend and I had to ask you for help and you asked me if I would be willing to share in the Sunday morning conference these personal things about me and my family, my first reaction was, “Eeek!” And then I realized that my truth needs to be told, because then I can show by example that not only do people who have been doing ConRev for years and doing it well get stuck and need to ask for help, but also, when you hear my story, you can relate to it and say, “If she can do this, I can fix the issue I have with my boss at work.” I’m so grateful to both of you. I love you both. Thank you for letting me be a part of this—even though I was a little bit scared to do it!
Barbara: The powerful thing about you sharing your story is that I have always believed that Conflict REVOLUTION can heal physical illnesses, it can prevent physical illnesses by not allowing a build-up, an abscess of emotion to get stuck in our bodies. You have shown that this isn’t a replacement for chemo or any kind of physical therapy anybody might be doing with cancer, but I believe it can augment the healing process. I’m looking forward to having you get your clean bill of health.
Cathy: Amen! (laughs)
Robin: In closing, I think we’ve shown by all these examples a good reason why this work is important and why it’s worth it. Maybe listeners are thinking, “This is a lot of effort. I don’t know if I can do it.” But what inspires us is the health, the well-being that come out of it, stronger relationships, the ability to achieve the things that you value in life. In my case, I realized that I value having a partnership and I want to do whatever it takes to get that. My conflict with Mr. Downer is the one that helped me to see that mirror and say, “Wait a minute. I’m draining my own energy by telling myself I’m unworthy and unlovable and I’ll never have a partner or be able to achieve what I want in life.” I didn’t see the pathway, I couldn’t find the next step I needed to take.
Robin: I’m taking a lot of steps, declaring that this is something I value, setting that intention daily, seeing the optimistic side. What am I grateful for? What is working right? What will work for me? How do I combat the thoughts that are telling me that I’m unworthy and unlovable? How do I step into the Witness and catch myself every time I start to beat myself up? Pushing back, wrestling with those thoughts to create more hopefulness. I’m much more hopeful a year into it. I haven’t achieved my goal yet, but I’m very hopeful that I will.
Barbara: And Lily Phelps, on her show we were talking about if Jesus would forgive Hitler, and the answer was, “Of course.” He couldn’t not forgive him, because then he wouldn’t be Jesus. You can’t not achieve that goal, because if we’re going to have a vision and intention and work towards that, then it has to have come true in the future.
Robin: I love that.
Barbara: So we can find hopefulness in that, too. I want to close by telling the people who have listened to this who want to do this work that you can always contact me at Partyof12.com, BarbWith@gmail. I have a number of learning tools. My new book, Einstein et al.: Manifestation, Conflict REVOLUTION, and the New Operating System, is the complete guide. It’s the unified field theory, the maps of human consciousness, and the complete curriculum that will walk you through it. I do some one-on-one coaching. I occasionally have online classes. Come to my website and sign up. There’s a lot of free stuff there as well to download. With this basic information, I think you can start experimenting with yourself and gain control of your own domain. I think I speak for Cathy and Robin and everyone who has been practicing and experiencing the results of Conflict REVOLUTION when I say that then you only will need to watch and be amazed.
Thank you! Until next time! Have a wonderful month! At the end of April we will have Leslie Stewart on talking about joy.